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Old 12-20-2011, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The suburbs of California where I'm from average 100 thousand to 200 thousand in population. Twenty thousand? I never heard of a suburb being that small. I think way too small for a suburb. A modern suburb by definition is very sprawled out and lacking design features such as traditional main streets and downtown areas. Modern suburbs are known for their big strip malls and parking lots, lack of a downtown area, etc. I don't see anything like that in the pictures. From what I see I would put Louisville in the small town category.
There is more than one defintion of a "suburb". Heck, some people on here even think there can be suburbs in the city! Colorado is not California.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:06 PM
 
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Colorado is not California.
Correct.

Louisville is not anything like a San Diego or Los Angeles suburb.
Which is why you can't lump them into the same category as you are attempting to do.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Correct.

Louisville is not anything like a San Diego or Los Angeles suburb.
Which is why you can't lump them into the same category as you are attempting to do.
Louisville is a DENVER/BOULDER suburb.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:23 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I'd be willing to bet your friend also dieted. It is virtually impossible to lose significant amounts of weight through exercise alone.
I did (see my previous post).
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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I take it you want a photo of a California suburb where people are out walking? No problem. How about Hermosa Beach? These suburbanites look pretty healthy in these photos.

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Old 12-20-2011, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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A modern suburb by definition is very sprawled out and lacking design features such as traditional main streets and downtown areas. Modern suburbs are known for their big strip malls and parking lots, lack of a downtown area, etc.
Guys, I have to say it ...

You need to get out more. And quit watching TV -- not every place looks like southern California.

I grew up in a suburb with a population of almost 4,000 on a good day. We had a downtown, no malls, no parking lots; in fact, the town still has diagonal parking on Main Street, which drives me insane. This was not a small, isolated farm town that grew into a suburb as the adjacent city grew; it was a planned garden city-style community designed out of vacant land that abutted the city, with attached and detached homes, a streetcar line into the city, a new schoolhouse, and three or four blocks of commercial buildings. Downtown now isn't as robust as it was when I was a kid, but still there's a few restaurants, beauty shops, banks, etc. There's also a public beach and boat launch on Lake Erie, as well as a fishing club and golf course. Way cool.

The next 'burb out of town was all open farmland at one time; now it's dotted with subdivisions and zoned commercial development along the main highways. There are some newer McMansion and/or condo farms, but mostly the residential areas are either smaller homes on smaller lots, or homes on larger lots of an acre or more. And still plenty of open farmland. Still no mall, though, just a couple of 1950s-style shopping plazas. And it does have a downtown -- small, but a post office, grocery store, a couple of quality restaurants, used car lot, antique shop and beer store are nothing to sneeze at. Its population is a little higher, at about 12,000; but it's 10 times bigger than my home 'burb, too.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:09 PM
 
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In other words, Ohiogirl, you lived in a streetcar suburb--which helps explain its walkability!
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:15 PM
 
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Some of you city folk are too dense for words. Ciscokid, I'm not even going to respond to your claims because they are SO ignorant it's not even worth it. As for the rest of you, please stay in the city and enjoy your packed and congested living. We don't care.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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I was reading a article about how if Americans continue their present lifestyle then 1/3 will be diabetic by 2050. It got me to thinking about how much the landscape of a cities plays into the public health. Cities that are denser and more pedestrian friendly allow for its citizens to be more active, while ones that are more sprawled out discourage its citizens from being active. With this in mind it would seem that reducing sprawl should not be just an enviornmental or economic issue, but also a public health issue. Thoughts?
We will reverse diabetes long before 2050 without having to redesign our cities, in my opinion. The knowledge of how to do so using diet, meal timing, and certain forms of physical activity is all pretty much out there, the people at the top spreading misinformation just need to be thrown out on the street.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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My daughter lived in a more "traditional", Calfornia style burb (Westminster, CO), and there were still places she could walk to w/o endangering her life. Most burbs have little strip shopping centers that are not much known to anyone but the residents. Westy also has a great trail/open space system and the RTD (bus company) built a Park 'n Ride there, which is almost always full.
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