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as far as bars go i dont need to name no bars cause i dont go to bars duhhhh, i can name plenty of clubs since thats what i do. Still trying to figure out how bars alone is the sum of my argument about brooklyns nightlife.
And this character has the nerve to talk about reading comprehension.
And the switching of the topics to degrade the boroughs of nyc continue. Now he wants to solely focuse on bars to prove a cheap point. YAWWWNNN.
Im not asking to name bars, im asking to name other aspects of nightlife that one would be doing at 4am in Brooklyn.
I'm not sure how silly Bajan's core elimination thing was--it was just another frame of reference for arguing NYC against other cities. If you took out Manhattan (NYC's core and then some) and then compared it to other US cities with their analogous areas taken out, how would these places fare? The argument's been put up before that NYC is all Manhattan, and in that respect, it's an arguable point that a lot of cities have their main stuff located in the core (kind of predictable).
This is a good place to start.
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Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives
Nothing. Everyone knows Brooklyn is a highly urban environment. That's not in dispute. What is in dispute is this notion (which has been asserted on more than one occasion) that Brooklyn, by itself, has as much or more going on as hub cities like San Francisco and Chicago. That's beyond far-fetched.
Really? Sure Brooklyn doesn't have as much retail as some of the other cities but you think it's far - fetched to compare? Okay, please hold.
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Originally Posted by resuelppA
Pretty much.
It went from Brooklyn being more urban to it somehow holding a candle to other cities in amenities and attractions...
Lol, wait for it.
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Originally Posted by resuelppA
Brooklyn is not more urban than Manhattan, Chicago, Philly or SF.
Taking their CBD out but not Brooklyn's? Yeah, but thats a ridiculous premise that gives Brooklyn a major handicap vs. the others.
OKay. You see what A LOT of you (some not all) don't understand is what it means to have urbanity. So I guess I'll explain. Let's just start like this take away Manhattan (because that's the core) let's also take away Downtown Brooklyn, BK's core and CBD. Now let's take away the core/downtown areas of the places you listed, SF, Chicago, L.A. (lol).
Are you following with me? Ok now please tell me how Brooklyn can't be compared when it comes to urbanity when looking at it from this perspective? I WILL GIVE YOU YOUR NATIONAL CHAINS of retail, Wal-Marts (sorry we don't have those) and Malls (and only a few of these, in the entire city). But outside of your city cores no one is near Brooklyn except Manhattan, the only place above it. Public transit as an example anyone?
We can even do neighborhood comparisons or whatever you need to do but it's clear Brooklyn can and does outshine cities outside of their cores, it's a fact.
Fort Green Vs. . .
Park Slope Vs. . .
Williamsburg Vs. . .
Boerum Hill Vs. . .
I could go on but the point is when people discredit just the 'neighborhood' factors of a place you're discrediting what really makes up 'urbanity' in the first place. It's not about tourist attractions, business hours, etc because that's all temporary. Furthermore you guys will have to come up with something better in a few years. I'm sure you don't know about the development happening in Brooklyn.
Oh and Ray, You can still laugh at BK for not having an Apple store. I'm still mad at that too, but 'supposedly' it's coming sooner than expected. And It's probably going to be Downtown or by the arena.
i just sent you a sight a few post up their that shows you the massive amount of clubs in brooklyn for just 1 ethnic group alone. while your at it you mught as well check out the clubs they have for the latino section(lots of bronx, and jersey clubs as well)
for someone to say theirs no nightlife in nyc outside of manhattan is just living in fantasy land.
like i live here, and normally participate in night time activities, and this poster is trying to tell me that i cant??
Really? Sure Brooklyn doesn't have as much retail as some of the other cities but you think it's far - fetched to compare? Okay, please hold.
Lol, wait for it.
OKay. You see what A LOT of you (some not all) don't understand is what it means to have urbanity. So I guess I'll explain. Let's just start like this take away Manhattan (because that's the core) let's also take away Downtown Brooklyn, BK's core and CBD. Now let's take away the core/downtown areas of the places you listed, SF, Chicago, L.A. (lol).
Are you following with me? Ok now please tell me how Brooklyn can't be compared when it comes to urbanity when looking at it from this perspective? I WILL GIVE YOU YOUR NATIONAL CHAINS of retail. But outside of your city cores no one is near Brooklyn except Manhattan. Public transit anyone?
We can even do neighborhood comparison or whatever you need to do but it's clear Brooklyn can and does outshine cities outside of their cores, it's a fact.
Fort Green Vs. . .
Park Slope Vs. . .
Williamsburg Vs. . .
Boerum Hill Vs. . .
I could go on but the point is when people discredit just the 'neighborhood' factors of a place you're discrediting what really makes up 'urbanity' in the first place. It's not about tourist attractions, business hours, etc because that's all temporary. Furthermore you guys will have to come up with something better in a few years. I'm sure you don't know about the development happening in Brooklyn.
Oh and Ray, You can still laugh at BK for not having an Apple store. I'm still mad at that too, but 'supposedly' it's coming sooner than expected. And It's probably going to be Downtown or by the arena.
He took out the entire Chicago CBD (Loop and Near North Side) and also most of the Northside, which is a much larger area than Brooklyn, so youd have to take out the surrounding neighborhoods around downtown Brooklyn (FG, Wburg, BH).
downtown Brooklyn does not compare to the CBDs in any of the other cities mentioned.
Agree. However, that is not what you typed in your post I responded to. That may be what you meant but not what you typed.
Chicago "downtown" more urban than Brooklyn "downtown" - by a fairly large gap
Chicago "entire city" less urban than Brooklyn "entire borough" - by a fairly large gap
idk why anyone is even paying mind to this character. he is clearly starting a fake battle here. No1 claimed brooklyn could hold a candle to these cities so why on earth is anyone responding to him.
Now he wants me to name clubs and bars in Brooklyn because he strongly believes their isnt any. lmaoo
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. Still trying to figure out how bars alone is the sum of my argument about brooklyns nightlife.
