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So what? Philly is much more urban than Seattle, its core felt stronger and just felt like a more bustling city in general. This is rather bizarre.
Yeah that's fine, I know Phily is urban, I've seen it and its an urban place, has a lot of "urban" going for it, I guess. There are hundreds of urban cities around the world but not all of them can make a case about being very important because being urban is just about the only things they have going for them, see a place like Nanjing its both urban and historic.
btw I think Phily is very important but I just see it a tilt above Seattle and Atlanta for now.
I know Phily as much as you likely know Seattle and that's as a tourist. Am I right? I have been to Seattle a few dozen times and its the first place on my short list outside of California. I'm also a big Seattle booster so I'm just as biased as you are as a Phily booster, so that settles our biases. That's another point, you cant really continue to sell how wonderful your location is close to NYC and DC in one thread when its to your advantage but complain about it in another. Sucks that NYC is poaching you Phily folks, I feel for ya, I really do because I thought the folks in Phily were some of the best you could meet anywhere but that's just how things are. NYC is the bigger city and it has the strings to pull Phily's surroundings to its will and that will never change but weren't you talking about how great your BosWash corridor is just 14 pages ago?
So why would you mind now? Seattle is the capital of its PNW empire and there's no competition and you cant really blame Seattle for its blessed isolation and space.
I think it would be interesting if you made that Seattle, Phily, Atlanta, and Miami thread and asked folks to rate them from most important to least going from now and into the next 20 years.
You mean your report from 2008?
I'm not sweating much bruh.
I used to spend quite a bit of time in Seattle for business, at the time very frequently (over a 5 year period I probably made 50 or more trips), much less in the last 5 years as I am there maybe once or twice a year now
outside of CvC I am actually pretty tough on Philly to be honest. i moved away for a while and do appreciate it more now than when I was younger.
Why would you be sweating, just dont understand your position, doesnt make sense to me so I asked. Thought I might learn something I missed but I guess not
On NYC I have always said for Philly its a blessing (though more blessing thatn curse as the curse parts are more intangibles quite honestly) and curse, no argument there though. In terms of Census cut lines it absolutely doesnt impact reality, that is a non starter
If you want to ask the question/thread be my guest
And on its isolation why would I blame it, I may not personally like being that isolated but why blame it. Cities arent people they develop and prosper for a number of reasons. I just didnt understand your rationale is all, guess the booster thing makes the most sense though so ok
I actually like Brooklyn better than Manhattan in a lot of ways, though Manhattan obviously has more amnetities.
I didn't get to experience Brooklyn last time I was in NYC all that much but did stay there at night - got to see a pretty nice stretch of the city on the Q train going into Manhattan. Enjoyed staying there and liked the neighborhoods though from what I hear on here the Q doesn't pass through many of the "hot" neighborhoods in Brooklyn. From what I see and hear on this site it seems like the part of NYC I would enjoy living in most though it is hard to tell though with limited experience in NYC.
I think where I was in Brooklyn was Sheepshead Bay, pretty interesting combo - the side streets were compact detached SFHs (sort of similar to what you see in LA in a much larger concentration, though different architectural aesthetic - something like this: brooklyn, ny - Google Maps) but then the commercial streets looked like this: brooklyn, ny - Google Maps
Also walking back from the train one night we walked past a crime scene, turns out about 20 minutes before some dude threw acid in another guy's face. Yikes!
Yeah that's fine, I know Phily is urban, I've seen it and its an urban place, has a lot of "urban" going for it, I guess. There are hundreds of urban cities around the world but not all of them can make a case about being very important because being urban is just about the only things they have going for them, see a place like Nanjing its both urban and historic.
btw I think Phily is very important but I just see it a tilt above Seattle and Atlanta for now.
I'm not sure about important either, don't care as much about that anyway. How is that relevant, aren't we talking about urbanity?
I'm not sure about important either, don't care as much about that anyway. How is that relevant, aren't we talking about urbanity?
Urbanity shurbanity, that topic died when the birdman started his eastcoast and westcoast fued with Montclair. lol
I feel the same way as you do, its not important, for me speaking I am talking of urbanity. I think of urbanity as a stage that works. Are you able to enjoy it in your city? Are there others enjoying it? Is there life and pedestrians? Problems solved.
I actually like Brooklyn better than Manhattan in a lot of ways, though Manhattan obviously has more amnetities.
Yeah, Brooklyn is the place to be right now. The real estate market is going through the roof, there are tons of great neighborhoods, European expats everywhere you look, the restaurant (and even nightlife) scene keeps getting better and better. Many people from Manhattan who would never have thought of moving to Brooklyn a few years ago are doing so in droves now. A penthouse apartment in Dumbo was listed recently for over $20 million and people are paying the kind of rents to live in certain parts of Brooklyn that are unheard of anywhere else in the country (including California). It's just hilarious to see a shm*ck from Pasadena who could never afford to live there turn up his nose at it.
I used to spend quite a bit of time in Seattle for business, at the time very frequently (over a 5 year period I probably made 50 or more trips), much less in the last 5 years as I am there maybe once or twice a year now
outside of CvC I am actually pretty tough on Philly to be honest. i moved away for a while and do appreciate it more now than when I was younger.
Why would you be sweating, just dont understand your position, doesnt make sense to me so I asked. Thought I might learn something I missed but I guess not
You like California, I know you love California deep down, I can see it when I read your posts. Your love for LA increases by the day and everytime I read your post it occurs to me that its very possible in the next 5-10 years that might be moving to Santa Monica or LA. That may not happen but that's the vibe I'm getting on a post basis.
You think of Seattle as overrated but it offers everything you like. It has the urban pleasures you want, downtown, improving transit, scenery, diverse climate, food, culture, etc. So why not have it as a consideration?
I know you stated reasons why Phily's airport is limited but that fact still goes that its limited even compared to Seattle's. Airports are the gateways cities have with the world, the first thing that should be at the international level for all cities IMO. Seattle is also pulling as much foreign immigration as Phily and rivaling Phily's foreign born population. Seattle has the better GDP to population ratio and its GDP is surging twice as fast as Phily's. It just surpassed Miami and Detroit while being a smaller place by 1.5M. It has the brand recognition around the world especially in South Korea and Japan. It's got the cos and market capitalization. I think its very realistic to put Seattle in the same tier as Boston, Houston, Dallas, Miami, Philadelphia, Atlanta, and Detroit.
Yeah, Brooklyn is the place to be right now. The real estate market is going through the roof, there are tons of great neighborhoods, European expats everywhere you look, the restaurant (and even nightlife) scene keeps getting better and better. Many people from Manhattan who would never have thought of moving to Brooklyn a few years ago are doing so in droves now. A penthouse apartment in Dumbo was listed recently for over $20 million and people are paying the kind of rents to live in certain parts of Brooklyn that are unheard of anywhere else in the country (including California). It's just hilarious to see a shm*ck from Pasadena who could never afford to live there turn up his nose at it.
It's no Brooklyn, but Old Town Pasadena is not exactly cheap either my friend. I'm not sure I could afford it...
You like California, I know you love California deep down, I can see it when I read your posts. Your love for LA increases by the day and everytime I read your post it occurs to me that its very possible in the next 5-10 years that might be moving to Santa Monica or LA. That may not happen but that's the vibe I'm getting on a post basis.
You think of Seattle as overrated but it offers everything you like. It has the urban pleasures you want, downtown, improving transit, scenery, diverse climate, food, culture, etc. So why not have it as a consideration?
I know you stated reasons why Phily's airport is limited but that fact still goes that its limited even compared to Seattle's. Airports are the gateways cities have with the world, the first thing that should be at the international level for all cities IMO. Seattle is also pulling as much foreign immigration as Phily and rivaling Phily's foreign born population. Seattle has the better GDP to population ratio and its GDP is surging twice as fast as Phily's. It just surpassed Miami and Detroit while being a smaller place by 1.5M. It has the brand recognition around the world especially in South Korea and Japan. It's got the cos and market capitalization. I think its very realistic to put Seattle in the same tier as Boston, Houston, Dallas, Miami, Philadelphia, Atlanta, and Detroit.
Poor guy had to live in Thousand Oaks when he was out here. As a fellow former resident of that city I find it incredible he can even tolerate the LA area after living there.
It's just hilarious to see a shm*ck from Pasadena who could never afford to live there turn up his nose at it.
RCL doesn't live in Pasadena.
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