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LA vigorously started to infill like crazy in the 80's and still continuous to do so today. Rome wasn't built in one day and the efforts in the last 30 years are coming to fruition now.
Agree or disagree?
Interesting article. From the architecture in many neighborhoods you can definitely tell that LA infilled lot in the 80s and 90s.
Kind of a huge turning point in the make-up of the city when they started to demolish the SFH for those apartment buildings. Sort of like the turning point that was the passing of Measure R.
Interesting:
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In the city of Los Angeles, 92% of the new residential construction between 1980 and 1989 was in multiple units, according to Terry Bills of the population research unit of the Los Angeles County Regional Planning Department.
Cool. At the rate DC is booming, it will come within 50% of L.A.'s core density around the time we're all dropping dead from old age. Congrats.
DC proper will have a population density of over 13,000 by 2030. You can mark that down now. And DC's core will be between 50,000-60,000. You might want to catch up on what is happening in DC right now......
You know what's not misleading? Actual life experiences.
I've been to Los Angeles. Twice. Even visited the "urban core."
I thought it was spread out, had very little if any pedestrian traffic beyond Hollywood Boulevard, and had a quiet downtown. It's clear that it is a driving city. It was very different from Chicago (where I've now only been three times), which had an active and bustling downtown, pedestrian life, and lots of seamless, three dimensional walkable urbanity.
Even Lovehound, who has lived in Los Angeles his whole life, says LA is nothing like the way you described it.
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I haven't seen any pedestrian life and our transit culture involves cars (or trucks or SUVs). It's a recurring topic on the Los Angeles forum "Can I live in L.A. without a car and utilize public transit?" Yeah, sure, you can make it fine in Los Angeles using urban transit, provided you have a car for the other 95% of the time.
DC proper will have a population density of over 13,000 by 2030. You can mark that down now. And DC's core will be between 50,000-60,000. You might want to catch up on what is happening in DC right now......
The return to the city has begun....
Yeah there's no reason to put DC down.
When you say core, what exactly do you mean? Downtown and environs? And what do you estimate it is at right now?
Zero lot is the definition of urbanity. You can't have extreme urbanity without it. Also, I agree L.A. is massively undercounted since most people living there shouldn't be in this country to begin with so obviously they were not counted. I could easily see an extra 1 million that were not counted.
As for urbanity, I think people on this site need to deflate their reliance on population density to define urbanity. Most cities and villages in third world countries have mind blowing density because of the same reason's L.A. has such high population density. The real question is whether these area's are built to have that population density? To me, I admire population density when an area is built to have it based on American upper class standards. That means no more than two people living in a one bed room etc. Also, how appealing the high density area's are. Why would I want to visit the high density areas in L.A.? The low density area's that meet American standards of living are much more appealing. This is a stark contrast to Manhattan, DC, Philly, and Boston where the densest areas are the most appealing. I think people lose focus of what they are comparing many times. Pay attention to demographics when looking at these things. Are area's poor? Would I want to visit this area? Etc. etc.....
We all know how much of a homer MDballstar is, if DC wasn't such a pathetic city for density we all know this guy would be raving about how dense DC is LOLLLL give me break brutha
I've been to Los Angeles. Twice. Even visited the "urban core."
I thought it was spread out, had very little if any pedestrian traffic beyond Hollywood Boulevard, and had a quiet downtown. It's clear that it is a driving city. It was very different from Chicago (where I've now only been three times), which had an active and bustling downtown, pedestrian life, and lots of seamless, three dimensional walkable urbanity.
Even Lovehound, who has lived in Los Angeles his whole life, says LA is nothing like the way you described it.
I just find it interesting your views differ from 1. the OP of that pedestrian-intensity list you posted just a few pages back, 2. just about every LA poster on City Vs. City, 3. probably about 60% of posters on the LA forum, 4. probably around 50% of the people that don't live in LA but post on C vs. C
Yet you take Lovehound's word as gospel. Fair enough.
^^^The guy who said he's been to LA twice is a bold face liar, me and another poster once kept asking him if he's ever been to LA before, he said yes, and then we both asked him where? He wouldn't answer our question for a couple of days until he cracked and said "everywhere" LOL yea ok buddy, that is why the guy relies so much on google maps and other's opinions cause he's never been
I've been to Los Angeles. Twice. Even visited the "urban core."
I thought it was spread out, had very little if any pedestrian traffic beyond Hollywood Boulevard, and had a quiet downtown.
So you didn't think Broadway in Downtown LA, Venice Beach, DT Santa Monica, WESTLAKE, etc.. didn't have much pedestrian activity? All of those areas are fairly crowded with pedestrians.
We all know how much of a homer MDballstar is, if DC wasn't such a pathetic city for density we all know this guy would be raving about how dense DC is LOLLLL give me break brutha
Yet, what are the demographics of L.A's core? Case and point. Unlike you, I'm having a conversation in academia. You are just spitting phrases.
So you didn't think Broadway in Downtown LA, Venice Beach, DT Santa Monica, WESTLAKE, etc.. didn't have much pedestrian activity? All of those areas are fairly crowded with pedestrians.
He's never been
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