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Old 09-19-2012, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Not only is D.C. less dense at the city level, it's all way less dense at the metro/CSA level.

Anyone declaring it more urban than L.A. is one step away from the loony bin. Seriously.
Los Angeles is more urban than anywhere in the United States except New York. DC is small and country by comparison.

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Old 09-19-2012, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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What are you talking about, theyre BOTH in Chevy Chase(one is a ministore inside Saks)

Dont be mad cause you have to leave 'the city' to buy LV.

#stopmakingsh*tup
Lol....This just proves you both have no clue what you are talking about. Mazza Gallerie is right across the street from Jimmy Cho, Louis Vuitton, and Tiffanies etc... It's all the same place Sherlock. You are pretty ignorant. You can't tell the difference other than one side of the street is DC and the other side is MD. Pathetic....we are so upset walking out the building to the next store.....Lol

One thing that is for sure, I am glad I don't live in LA which are a bunch of bammas as far as Im concerned. You two pretty much prove that.
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Have you been on Vermont? Obviously not because the neighborhoods you're calling devoid of life have exactly that and in slews. You've obviously never been to the grand central market in downtown either or the Jewelry district or Pershing Square.
Yeh, not too much urban in Vermont.



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Old 09-19-2012, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Uh WRONG!

You claim Baltimore as the DC area so that's what? 9M? You expect anyone to believe there's 4M-4.5M folks using "other means other than the automobile" to commute? LOL what planet did they drop this guy from?

Let me guess, now "that's Baltimore, not DC", right?
You do realize that every metro has extremely low mass transit ridership. Only city propers have high ridership. Well...maybe not LA that has absolutely no transit ridership basically for a city it's size, but all the big wigs get ridership from their city proper. You can easily look this up. When it comes to urbanity, who is talking about areas outside the city? Single family homes are not urban at all. Only multi-family and rowhouses are urban. That's how you form a street wall.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Los Angeles is more urban than anywhere in the United States except New York. DC is small and country by comparison.

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What do you do for a living?
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:04 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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You do realize that every metro has extremely low mass transit ridership. Only city propers have high ridership.
A few places adjacent to the city proper often have high transit ridership. Places like Brookline for Boston. Yonkers, a long list of wealthy inner (commuter rail) suburbs of NYC. Arlington and Bethesda for DC, so on.

The NYC metro has a transit ridership of 30%, not really extremely low.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:14 AM
 
Location: The City
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Los Angeles is more urban than anywhere in the United States except New York. DC is small and country by comparison.

http://www.greenpacks.org/wp-content...from-above.jpg

In many ways this is probably correct though calling DC country is well a little bit unrealistic but LA on most accounts is probably second in this regard on the whole. Its construct dimishes some of the street level feel however. Chciago and LA are somewhat close on the continuance and places like SF/Philly/Boston (Chicago to a larger extent) have aspects in their cores that when limited to these areas could place them ahead of LA on this aspect
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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A few places adjacent to the city proper often have high transit ridership. Places like Brookline for Boston. Yonkers, a long list of wealthy inner (commuter rail) suburbs of NYC. Arlington and Bethesda for DC, so on.

The NYC metro has a transit ridership of 30%, not really extremely low.

That's because almost half of the people living in the NYC metro area live in New York City. 8 million people! With way over 50% of the people using public transit in NYC along with a ton walking, I guess the NYC metro area does have alot of people commuting by a means other than the automobile. No other metro area in America comes close because no other metro area has that many people living in the city proper. Well....an urban city proper that is which is essential to promoting non-auto commuting. L.A. obviously doesn't fit the bill. It's the only mega city in the world with such a high population and such low mass transit ridership. HELLO PEOPLE......this should tell you something......


Every other city in the world with that many people can't function without mass transit yet L.A. does just fine. And these people somehow think it's because they have palm tree's...lol

No, it's because their city is not built dense leaving room for cars. If you accomdate parking....people will use it........
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Ok, I want someone to post an area in LA a person not on welfare would actually want to live that forms a street wall for a great distance. Since LA is built so dense and the abnormal household sizes have nothing to do with it, someone post an area that is appealing to live in with an appropriately built environment for the topic.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Everyone can refer to this site for an answer to why LA has such a high population density. Click on the households with only one person living there "map" for L.A. We research this in planning all the time. I know most average Joe’s off the street wouldn't look at this type of information but it is necessary when studying cities and the way they function.

Mapping the 2010 U.S. Census - NYTimes.com
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