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As long as you can fly nonstop on Southwest from LAX/BWI (Baltimore)and be in downtown DC 60-75 minutes after you've deplaned, coast-to-coast HSR just won't 'pencil out', as the saying goes.
As long as you can fly nonstop on Southwest from LAX/BWI (Baltimore)and be in downtown DC 60-75 minutes after you've deplaned, coast-to-coast HSR just won't 'pencil out', as the saying goes.
I was unaware that Baltimore and DC were on opposite coasts!
As long as you can fly nonstop on Southwest from LAX/BWI (Baltimore)and be in downtown DC 60-75 minutes after you've deplaned, coast-to-coast HSR just won't 'pencil out', as the saying goes.
There's a similar point in "Is long-distance high-speed rail practical in the US?" Flying has it's place as a long-haul transport (LA-SF, SF-Chicago, NY-Miami...) whereas rail is better suited to intercity and medium-haul routes (SJ-SF, within LA, or metro Chicago, or metro NY).
There's a similar point in "Is long-distance high-speed rail practical in the US?" Flying has it's place as a long-haul transport (LA-SF, SF-Chicago, NY-Miami...) whereas rail is better suited to intercity and medium-haul routes (SJ-SF, within LA, or metro Chicago, or metro NY).
But why not rail between SF and LA or NYC and DC etc.
I can get to midtown Manhattan form Philly in 62 minutes on rail, seems extremely effecient actually, is faster than ging to PHL and getting through security and boarding a flight let alone flying anywhere. Flying has a place to me as does rail, and rail can be very effecient from city to city, some local regional rail lines take longer from center city to the burbs than does HSR to NYC.
on HSR it makes sense in some places and not in others
I can get to midtown Manhattan form Philly in 62 minutes on rail, seems extremely effecient actually, is faster than ging to PHL and getting through security and boarding a flight let alone flying anywhere.
At that distance (~100 miles) trains are competing with cars or buses, not planes. Though there actually be a flight between the two.
Trains come off better than driving if there's any traffic and you're going in or near the centers of the cities, where a car is less than useful especially for New York. If the starting or end point is from an outer region of the city or suburb the choice is more difficult.
The only advantage of the bus is it's cheap. Running a bus for a high volume route, especially when rail exists, is silly. But for whatever reason Amtrak is high. It would be nice if NJ Transit continued its Trenton line as a semi-express to Philly without a changeover.
At that distance (~100 miles) trains are competing with cars or buses, not planes. Though there actually be a flight between the two.
Trains come off better than driving if there's any traffic and you're going in or near the centers of the cities, where a car is less than useful especially for New York. If the starting or end point is from an outer region of the city or suburb the choice is more difficult.
The only advantage of the bus is it's cheap. Running a bus for a high volume route, especially when rail exists, is silly. But for whatever reason Amtrak is high. It would be nice if NJ Transit continued its Trenton line as a semi-express to Philly without a changeover.
Agree on the last pojnt, would be nice for the NJT line, but would also say that HSR is pretty good for a trip like NYC to DC etc. (for personal travel I tend to drive to Trenton or even to Patterson NJ and the Path when going into NYC)
Amtrak is expensive, but you pay for the speed, still pretty cheap especially for business travel when milage, tolls etc are factored. all forms can serve different purposes and $20 bucks for bolt bus can be great too even a little longer than driving or rail
If you were to look at the positive economic impact an airport has on the surrounding area I would say yes...yes it does.
In that case, streetcars and light rail pay for themselves too, based on the same metric.
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