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Old 05-14-2012, 07:14 PM
 
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Right now cars are the preferred method of travel for most US residents, but they are not subject to TSA-like security measures.
How many "car bomb" incidents would it take before they were?
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Old 05-14-2012, 07:47 PM
 
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There is no 3rd class in Indian Railways. please look at the classes again. and also the ticket prices of trains in India.
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In Chicago, north suburbs, there is 1/2 day road. It's called that because it was a 1/2 days travel from there to Chicago back in the day.

Anyone crying about air travel and *gasp* having to take your shoes off needs a serious reality check. I recommend a 3 day train ride across India....3rd class.

You'll never complain again.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:21 AM
 
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On balance flying is far more convenient. A train would take far too long and would be far, far more expensive.
Very vague and general statement. What kind of train are you talking about? Slow speed conventional rail or high-speed rail? It might be true if you're taking Amtrak but if you're taking the bullet train in Japan or the Eurostar in Europe that's a whole different ballgame. Also depends on how far you're going. In many cases, high speed rail is comparable or even faster than flying.


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Old 05-15-2012, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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Between the airsickness, bad food (if it is even offered), cramped seats, poor customer service, endless delays and cancellations, having to remove your shoes at the security gate and who knows what other items of clothing, being felt up and degraded by a bunch of power-mad TSA agents, flying in the US has become a form of sadomasochism and torture.

But people are still largely opposed to high-speed rail? Go figure.




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Oh brother. High speed rail bs? Isn't Europe's failing high rail system that they pump millions of dollars into proof enough that it's useless?
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:52 AM
 
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Very vague and general statement. What kind of train are you talking about? Slow speed conventional rail or high-speed rail? It might be true if you're taking Amtrak but if you're taking the bullet train in Japan or the Eurostar in Europe that's a whole different ballgame. Also depends on how far you're going. In many cases, high speed rail is comparable or even faster than flying.


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Sorry, you don't know where I live so I'll be specific. I'm in Southern California. I'm traveling to New York at 7AM, not the red-eye. I'll arrive at about 3:30PM. A train couldn't do that.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:59 AM
 
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Oh brother. High speed rail bs? Isn't Europe's failing high rail system that they pump millions of dollars into proof enough that it's useless?

As opposed to the money-losing US airline industry?


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Old 05-15-2012, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Centre Wellington, ON
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The thing about the airline industry is that the cost of tickets, when adjusted for inflation and removing the various airport taxes has gone down considerably, around 2 fold in Toronto where the various taxes and fees are some of the highest in the world. It's not surprising that the quality of service has gone down and the airlines are all struggling.
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:28 AM
 
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Sorry, you don't know where I live so I'll be specific. I'm in Southern California. I'm traveling to New York at 7AM, not the red-eye. I'll arrive at about 3:30PM. A train couldn't do that.
And nobody is Asserting that it would. However it could get you from downtown LA to downtown SF quicker than flying. This is the goal of HSR.
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:46 AM
 
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In Chicago, north suburbs, there is 1/2 day road. It's called that because it was a 1/2 days travel from there to Chicago back in the day.

Anyone crying about air travel and *gasp* having to take your shoes off needs a serious reality check. I recommend a 3 day train ride across India....3rd class.

You'll never complain again.
That is a misconception. It was actually in honor of an Indian Chief.
Half Day, Illinois - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
By horse and buggy it was probably several days.
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:53 AM
 
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You could get from downtown LA to downtown SF quicker than flying. This is the goal of HSR.
Are there really enough business travellers to make this worthwhile? I mean 90% of business could be done via telephone. It seems like this would just put downward pressure on whichever place between the stops that has a higher cost of living, just like highways between cities and suburbs but on a larger scale.

A HSR line between Las Vegas and LA is even stupider. Why should the entire state of CA subsidize Nevada's growth so a few people can gamble and even fewer can go to the beach?
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