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Old 06-03-2012, 11:54 PM
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Suburbs are almost entirely white
Suburbs are just an endless sprawl of houses that look the same
Suburbs have little to no nightlife and social convertaizm is the norm
Every family in the suburb has a family
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:30 PM
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Triple-deckers exist primarily in eastern New England, esp in Boston and surrounding communites ( esp Somerville); you' ll also find a decent amount in Worcester, and also some in Providence, but much less in places like Portland and Manchester; you find that they're almost nonexistent in western and northern New England..
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Amercity View Post
Suburbs are almost entirely white
Suburbs are just an endless sprawl of houses that look the same
Suburbs have little to no nightlife and social convertaizm is the norm
Every family in the suburb has a family
Note the beginning of the third line in Amercity's post. I would expand on the erroneous notion that there is little nightlife in the suburbs, and add the broader misconception that the suburbs are devoid of culture. There may have been a good deal of truth to that notion at one time, as the newness of postwar suburbs in the '50's may not have lent itself to the existence of established centers of culture. That, along with the fact that new suburbanites at first were oriented toward enjoying much of what they wanted in the way of traditionally urban amenities by traveling to the city, just as they commuted to the city for work.

Over the years since then, metropolitan areas have become complex places, with crisscrossing lines of traffic, as opposed to the traditional model where the travel routes were largely seen as being between city and suburbs. Today, many people both live and work in the suburbs, as well as shopping and seeking entertainment there. Many suburbanites today seldom travel to the city. When it comes to cultural venues, one area where the suburbs are lacking is in the presence of large museums. Presumably this is because the major museums already long established in cities comfortably serve the needs of broader metropolitan areas, so there is no incentive to build new centers of this sort. The suburbs of many cities do offer plenty in the way of small but high-quality museums, and local performing groups (theater, orchestra) of professional quality.

Another area where today's suburbs hold their own in terms of culture in the broad sense is dining. Plenty of upscale restaurants, cozy coffee shops, ethnic dining eclectica, unpretentiously friendly and simple neighborhood eateries, and even some quirky off-beat little places can be found in the suburbs of today. True, the chain restaurants of suburbia stereotyping are there when one wants a convenient meal at relatively low cost, but the more interesting, distinctive options are there as well.

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Old 06-04-2012, 10:32 PM
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Just commons sense and simple observation really as someone who grew up in the suburbs. In any typical suburb you go to, you're going to see hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds....phew.... and hundreds and hundreds of private automobiles on the streets, as far as the eye can see. You can't miss 'em. OTOH, you can count on your fingers the number of people you see standing at the bus stops, if any. What does that tell you?

The same rule of thumb applies to the suburbs of Denver Colorado where you are from. As this 2009 PBS documentary on suburban sprawl confirms. Highlands Ranch is mentioned as a case study on the problems of suburban sprawl and gridlock in the Denver area.

Excerpt from PBS:

"Out here in Highlands Ranch there are no commuter trains. Almost no one takes the bus. And bike into the city? Forget it. No, if you live here you have one choice for getting around: your car. And that's just fine with Jayson Luber: "In the west people love to drive in their cars. They are independent, they love to drive, and its hard to get them out of their car...very hard to get them out of their car. They tried for years and years to get people to either carpool, get them onto the trains. But you can't. You can't force people out of their cars."

Jayson Luber's job? He's the morning traffic anchor on KMJH Channel 7 Morning News (in Denver). For over a decade, Luber has been telling people here what they already know: traffic is getting bad, and its only getting worse..."

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As a veteran traffic reporter I think Luber would understand a thing or two about the ever growing problems of sprawl and traffic congestion in the Denver area.
^^^What he said!

Saturday I was in Highlands Ranch; you know the place that was the subject of a fantasy story on PBS. The place with no public transportation, even though a picture of a Park and Ride was posted? Well guess what? There is a Town Center, which has a nice Indy bookstore, a branch of the Tattered Cover, one of the biggest indy bookstores in Colorado.

We accidentally got into the library parking lot (a branch of the Douglas County library system) and at 5 PM on a Saturday, it was teeming with people coming and going to the library. Imagine! Suburbanites not only can read, they use the library! We rolled down the window and asked a man coming out of the lib. how to get to Tattered Cover, and instead of shooting us in a case of parking lot rage, as we know suburbanites like to do, or ignoring us, as suburbanites also like to do as they don't like to interact with people, he actually gave us directions, then laughed and said "it isn't as hard to find as it sounds". We found it in no time, and once inside, amazingly, there were flyers for all sorts of community activities posted. Now we know suburbanites like to keep their stores sterile and not do that sort of stuff, right? I read about a writer's group, a farmer's market every Sunday (I thought suburbanites just went to Fundamentalist Christian churches on Sundays, no?), and a 4th of July celebration. We actually saw several Park and Rides, even though suburbanites don't take the bus.

Just thought I'd report back; I hadn't been to HR in a long time.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:48 PM
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Suburbs are all bedroom communities.

Terms like "satellite city," "edge city," and "metropolitan division" indicate an attempt by urban geographers to portray the complexity of today's metropolitan areas. Metro areas are now complex webs, where the old model of a surrounding population commuting to the central city for work, shopping, entertainment, or services no longer holds true as the only pattern.

Those new terms also refer to various kinds of commercial centers located outside the center of the metro's principal city, each with its own surrounding area of economic influence, and even its own commuting population. There are parts of larger metro areas today which are in effect small metropolitan areas which combine with other such entities to form the complex web of suburbia which then in turn centers around the larger city forming the metro area's base.
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