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Old 06-10-2012, 02:00 AM
 
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What cities, do you think, should have high speed rails connecting them?
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Old 06-10-2012, 06:51 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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What cities, do you think, should have high speed rails connecting them?
"should" doesn't really enter the equation.

What cities, do you think, have the space available to build and ridership potential to use...
that to construct high speed rails connecting them might actually be able to work?
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Old 06-10-2012, 01:50 PM
 
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Although this subject has been beaten to death, and the politics don't presently favor it.
LA-San Diego
LA-San Francisco
Dallas-Houston
Chicago-St Louis
Chicago-Detroit
Milwaukee-Madison
Miami-Orlando
St Louis-Kansas City
Seattle-Portland

When will the political stars align to build them? Either gasoline at $10/gallon (not likely) or increasing congestion between the city pairs.
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Old 06-10-2012, 03:09 PM
 
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The two that can pay for it or make private investors believe they can make it payable.
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Old 06-10-2012, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,az
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Although this subject has been beaten to death, and the politics don't presently favor it.
LA-San Diego
LA-San Francisco
Dallas-Houston
Chicago-St Louis
Chicago-Detroit
Milwaukee-Madison
Miami-Orlando
St Louis-Kansas City
Seattle-Portland

When will the political stars align to build them? Either gasoline at $10/gallon (not likely) or increasing congestion between the city pairs.
Why Detroit?

I was thinking Boston to NYC, but there are too many states in the way lol
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Old 06-10-2012, 05:48 PM
 
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I think the only place where it is viable is NYC-Philly-DC if you want the maximum number, and maybe NYC-Albany-Boston or just NYC to Boston. The west coast might be good, but San Francisco isn't big or dense enough to support it and if SF connected to LA, LA doesn't have enough density in one spot to put high speed rail that connects there unless it is park and ride far from LA's urban core.

Also, if high speed rail consists of demolishing a huge strip of neighborhoods in any city to make it similar to Robert Moses destroying NYC to put the Cross-Bronx Highway then I think it would be politically impossible to do not to mention it would be horrible, so high speed rail might be unviable anywhere if that were the case. I am sure they could use the existing rails, but it'd be limited in speed especially if it must share rails with freight trains or slower passenger trains.
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Old 06-10-2012, 06:24 PM
 
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Why Detroit?

I was thinking Boston to NYC, but there are too many states in the way lol
While everyone wants to forget Detroit, its auto industry is coming back, it is the gateway to Canada, as well as several sports teams in the same league.
The real problem with New York-Boston is the route has more curves than Mae West.
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Old 06-10-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,az
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While everyone wants to forget Detroit, its auto industry is coming back, it is the gateway to Canada, as well as several sports teams in the same league.
The real problem with New York-Boston is the route has more curves than Mae West.
After reviewing any real path it could take I tend to agree with you. Detroit has deer running through downtown. Something this barren shouldn't have a "bridge to nowhere" so to speak.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:58 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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California High Speed Rail Network
Size : 800+ Mi (1,300kms)
Number of lines : 6
Stations : 25+
Projected Ridership : 95 Million a Year or 260,730 Daily
Top Speed : 220mph (350Km/h)
Cost : 68.5 Billion $


Midwest High Speed Rail Network
Size : 1,800 Mi+ (1,296Kms)
Stations : 76+ (Feeders factored in)
Lines : 6+ with 7 Feeders
Projected Ridership : 43 Million a year or 120,000 daily (Feeders factored in)
Top Speed on Trunk lines : 220mph (350Km/h)
Top Speed on Secondary / Feeder lines : 125mph (201Km/h)
Cost : 70 Billion $


Texas High Speed Rail Network
Size : 680 Mi+ (1,259kms)
Stations : 15
Lines : 5
Projected Ridership : 18.5 Million a year or 55,000 Daily
Top Speed on Trunk lines : 220mph (350Km/h)
Cost : 15-45 Billion $


Cascadia Corridor
Size : 407 Mi (753km)
Stations : 11
Lines : 1
Projected Ridership : 12.8 Million a year or 35,000 Daily
Top Speed on Trunk lines : 170mph (273Km/h)
Cost : 20 Billion $


Northeastern High Speed / Intercity Network
Size : 2,280 Mi+ (4,222kms)
Lines : 2 trunk lines + with 10 Feeders
Stations : 150+ (Feeders factored in)
Projected Ridership : 127 Million a year or 350,000 daily (Feeders factored in)
Top Speed on Trunk lines : 220mph (350Km/h)
Top Speed on Secondary / Feeder lines : 125mph (201Km/h)
Cost : 120 Billion $


Taken from MWHSR , CAHSR and AMtrak Next gen sources and other sources
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Old 06-10-2012, 11:00 PM
 
Location: West Cedar Park, Philadelphia
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The two that can pay for it or make private investors believe they can make it payable.
Cuz thats how we got the interstate highways system and airports.
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