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Old 07-26-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/26/us...ml?_r=1&ref=us

It looks like there is more of a real possibility for high-speed rail in the NE Corridor (Boston-NYC-Philly-DC). The Florida plans went bust. California's plan is being scaled back to a slower train that makes more frequent stops, hence, not really a high-speed train. However, is Amtrak's proposal for a bullet train that goes up to 220mph more realistic for this area? Or will financial difficulties and politics get in the way of this project too? Or will the greater demand for it make this the most likely and first of America's high-speed rails? Debate.
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:57 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Very Realistic , considering that it already makes $$$ and carries 45% of the Regional Travel share...ridership also keeps rising.
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in northern Alabama
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Gee, why not make a TARGET???

High speed rail is so 19th and 20th century.

Chickpea Soup: High speed passenger rail
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:52 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Gee, why not make a TARGET???

High speed rail is so 19th and 20th century.

Chickpea Soup: High speed passenger rail
They didn't even have HSR till the Mid 20th Century....its a 21st Century thing....and its not old. The Newer lines can go 230mph.
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in northern Alabama
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High speed is relative. 100 mph trains in the last couple of centuries were VERY high speed for the time.
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Here.
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I'm kind of surprised that the President hasn't made this his "going to the moon" project. He could have gotten major corporations involved in building the locomotives, cars, and other technology; put a lot of people to work; tied it in with his anti-oil stand, claimed it as a stimulus, etc.
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:21 PM
 
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I'm kind of surprised that the President hasn't made this his "going to the moon" project.
He tried. It went over about as well as broccoli at Bush's birthday.
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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I'm kind of surprised that the President hasn't made this his "going to the moon" project. He could have gotten major corporations involved in building the locomotives, cars, and other technology; put a lot of people to work; tied it in with his anti-oil stand, claimed it as a stimulus, etc.
LOL
It is the FEDERAL government (FRA) that has been an anchor chain on American railroads.
He'd have to scrap the FRA to get enthusiastic response from the railroaders.

Some cogent comments on the mess created by Uncle Sam:
Passenger Rail for the Shasta Route: Table of Contents
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:15 PM
 
Location: West Cedar Park, Philadelphia
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And it only costs $151 billion! Oh wow!

I think this was already beaten to death but:

It ain't happening, at least not the way Amtrak envisions. Upgrades to the existing NE Corridor are seriously needed, and imo will get done over the next couple of decades. An actual dedicated ROW for HSR might happen... in the next 100 years. Really I think that's more important that than 220mph service between Boston and DC. Shaving that extra 10 minutes off my trip to NYC aren't worth the added $100 some odd billion dollars to build the dedicated ROW right now. I would rather spend that fixing up other routes to the point that they can be usable for reliable inter-city transit than sink everything into the NE Corridor.

And personally I don't think California's HSR line is going to pan out the way they want it to. I'm talking massive cutbacks and cost overruns. It's not going to look anything like the plan they started out with, but when do government plans ever turn out the way they were supposed to?
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:25 PM
 
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when do government plans ever turn out the way they were supposed to?
Depends on how polarized your country is
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