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Old 08-12-2012, 07:14 PM
 
Location: NYC
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In any event I've found no indications that whether a person lives in a city or a suburb has any bearing on their character; you know, their honesty, forthrightness, courage and willingness to give me a jump start when my battery is dead.
Me too. Did it seem like I was making some sort of value judgment against those who don't live in cities?

 
Old 08-12-2012, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I don't understand. Am I doing something wrong? Why I am I the subject of antipathy?

This is amazing. 4 negative responses to my post. Darn, why the animosity?
I don't have any animosity towards you. Reasonable people can disagree. However, here is what you said that caused me to disagree, and show my disagreement (in bold).

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Worth noting that I'm sipping beer in a independent pub while my wife is next door at an art class. This building was a public market for about 130 years, was abandoned for 30, and has now been reoccupied. I can't think of any place in any suburb where this could be happening right now. I guess we just like this stuff, and others do too.
Not to mention that last sentence implies that suburban dwellers don't like to do those things, since you think the suburbs don't have such amenities as indy bars and art lessons.
 
Old 08-12-2012, 07:22 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Not to mention that last sentence implies that suburban dwellers don't like to do those things, since you think the suburbs don't have such amenities as indy bars and art lessons.
Do they have them side by side?

You must forgive me, because when I think suburbs, Louisvlle, where I spent all of 2 or 3 hours, is not the first on my mind. The Baltimore suburbs are. Where there most certainly is nothing like I described.

Didn't mean for this to be a big fight.
 
Old 08-12-2012, 07:24 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Do they have them side by side?

You must forgive me, because when I think suburbs, Louisvlle, where I spent all of 2 or 3 hours, is not the first on my mind. The Baltimore suburbs are. Where there most certainly is nothing like I described.

Didn't mean for this to be a big fight.
How about Huntington, NY instead?
 
Old 08-12-2012, 07:26 PM
 
Location: NYC
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How about Huntington, NY instead?
Nicely played. Maybe more feasible - but the price of admission is far higher.
 
Old 08-12-2012, 07:31 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Here's the thing - speaking to the OP - I'm not trying to impose my lifestyle on anyone. I'm content where I am. I like everything that is available to me here, and I like the price of being close to it, because it's pretty reasonable. I could really care less what happens in Catonsville, Middle River or Towson.

To think, all this could have been avoided by saying "I don't think there's anywhere in the Baltimore suburbs where this exists."

Oh well. The world continues to turn.

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Old 08-12-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Do they have them side by side?

You must forgive me, because when I think suburbs, Louisvlle, where I spent all of 2 or 3 hours, is not the first on my mind. The Baltimore suburbs are. Where there most certainly is nothing like I described.

Didn't mean for this to be a big fight.
I don't know if you can find a bar and an art studio that gives lessons side by side in Louisville, but certainly you could find such within the same block. Many of the studios are on Front St., which also has some bars.
 
Old 08-13-2012, 12:24 AM
 
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Basically the concentraqtion in transsportation and energy advantage in the first half of the 20th century has gone away.What many overgrown urban areas see now is decayed infrastructure as taxbase shifts increasingly. They are left with too many who are dependents rather than contributors in taxbase basically.
 
Old 08-13-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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Here's the thing - speaking to the OP - I'm not trying to impose my lifestyle on anyone. I'm content where I am. I like everything that is available to me here, and I like the price of being close to it, because it's pretty reasonable. I could really care less what happens in Catonsville, Middle River or Towson.

To think, all this could have been avoided by saying "I don't think there's anywhere in the Baltimore suburbs where this exists."

Oh well. The world continues to turn.
It's an utterly false premise--but it fits the basic narrative of "We are under attack by sinister forces seeking to destroy our way of life!"
 
Old 08-13-2012, 10:30 AM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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I am confused by the desire urban enthusiasts have to completely transform urban areas into their dream cities. By that, I mean the desire to extend transit way out into suburbs that they don't live in, harboring hope that gas prices will force us to live in more dense environments,
I am confused. here in NoVa where I live, there is a big extension transit into the suburbs called the silver line. AFAIK residents of the actual urban places in the region are mostly indifferent - it has been pushed by the suburban counties, looking for denser development for many reasons, but mostly to generate new tax revenues. by urban enthusiasts, do you mean the suburban county govts?

Can you give me an example of such a transit project that is being imposed on a suburban area against its will?
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