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Old 08-13-2012, 07:02 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Davis, CA, critical mass wasn't like that (more like the latter). It was about a hundred people, mostly students and graduate students but plenty of residents as well. Lots of kids out with their training wheels, toddlers on the back of bicycles. Of course it's a smaller college town as well where bicycling is extremely common. Sacramento Critical Mass is more mixed, both in the participants and the reactions from the public and police.
Flat, no humidity ... I only spent an hour in Davis but I wished I had a bike with me.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:28 PM
 
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Is something being done about this? Having not heard of it before this thread, I am a bit surprised. Why would NYC or the NYPD be against cyclists?
Don't know, but they are. One NYPD officer tried to get me sent on a one-way trip to Rikers by lying about my almost hitting a pedestrian, and failed only because the hanging judge wasn't there that day.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:38 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/download...or-vehicle.pdf
NYC has about 1/4th the average MV fatality rate at 3.4, US average is around 12.9. The number of cyclists included in that death toll is almost none. It's mostly pedestrians. Cyclists are just a very, very vocal minority and OpenSpace capitalizes on that.
Interestingly, for having a much higher proportion of pedestrians than the rest of the country in the NYC area the pedestrian fatality rate is roughly identical to the rest of the country for pedestrians under age 60. But the elderly are much more likely to die in pedestrian accidents in the NY area.



of course, to be fair, the elderly die from motor vehicle accidents at a higher rate, so the lower pedestrian fatality rate in the rest of the US might be made up by a highe car accident fatality rate.

via your favorite "news" source:

TSTC: Downstate Roads Rank Poorly for Senior Pedestrian Safety | Streetsblog New York City

but the numbers are taken from elsewhere, so I assume it's accurate. The majority of deaths are from arterial roads. Puzzled why 4% of elderly pedestriandeaths are on interstates/expressway. The motor vehicle death rate varies widely by state from a low of about 5 in Massachusetts to above 25 in some rural southern states. Wonder what the cause is… Probably a more relevant stat for most people than an area's murder rate.

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Old 08-15-2012, 08:39 PM
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Is something being done about this? Having not heard of it before this thread, I am a bit surprised. Why would NYC or the NYPD be against cyclists?
NYC (at least lately) likes cyclists; the city government has been building lots of bike lanes. The NYPD not so much.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:40 PM
 
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Puzzled why 4% of elderly pedestriandeaths are on interstates/expressway.
I'd theorize they were hit after getting out of their car for some reason.
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