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Old 10-18-2012, 09:01 PM
 
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With more and more people buying electric and hybrid cars it has always made me wonder, where can you plug in your car in condos or apartment complexes? In most cases you can't.

Even in Canada, where there are outlets for people to plug in block heaters, apparently condo associations don't like the idea of paying for the 'fuel' for a resident's car, even though the cost is low.

Condo owner must pay for meter or unplug electric car - Ottawa - CBC News
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:21 PM
 
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New problems will require new solutions. Eventualy meters will all comunicate data about who is using what energy / when it is used -- Smart meter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia When combined with chargers that send info about the battery back to the meter / utility specialized billing can be done == Power line communication - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:29 PM
 
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But it's going to be a long adjustment period. I looked around the basement parking garage of the condo building I live in now, I couldn't even find any outlets.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:41 PM
 
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Default Imagine how hard things would be if you got a solar powered car in the basement...

Sorta kidding, but only a little. Ultimately electricity is a whole lot easier to extend than say hydrogen. If ultimately the power plants are not really wind or solar or nuclear or hydro-electric then they are gonna be fossil fuel and the jury is still very much out on that...




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But it's going to be a long adjustment period. I looked around the basement parking garage of the condo building I live in now, I couldn't even find any outlets.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:51 PM
 
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It would seem like the cost of the cars energy usage per month could easily be assessed and billed to the owner.

HOAs are dummies sometimes.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:29 AM
 
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Sorta kidding, but only a little. Ultimately electricity is a whole lot easier to extend than say hydrogen. If ultimately the power plants are not really wind or solar or nuclear or hydro-electric then they are gonna be fossil fuel and the jury is still very much out on that...
Why would people continue to burn fossil fuels for electricity in the future? Greening the electricity grid is the easiest step, the low hanging fruit, of moving to a low carbon economy. It's the thing every jurisdiction does first.
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:41 AM
 
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Default Seen cost per megawatt numbers lately??

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Why would people continue to burn fossil fuels for electricity in the future? Greening the electricity grid is the easiest step, the low hanging fruit, of moving to a low carbon economy. It's the thing every jurisdiction does first.

It is darned near impossible to beat the cost of modern NG fueled turbines -- Cost of electricity by source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia beyond the cost the tiny footprint of turbine powered generation stations and the ease with which they fit into the existing power transmission grid makes them the obvious choice over sprawling wind or solar options.

While technically methane itself can be generated by other means (like biogas sources and as a by-product from some industrial processes) the VAST majority of it is extracted alongside oil or coal -- Natural gas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia so most folks classify it as a fossil fuel.

The even sadder fact is that NOTHING and I mean NOTHING in the realm of power generation scales like coal. It is unlikely that coal will be eliminated from any country's energy diet especially when lunatics freak out over nuclear.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:22 AM
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My old apartment had a plug outside that the guy living in another unit used to run an engine block heater for his old diesel VW. I think the plug was metered to our apartment.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:29 AM
 
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I don't think the condo Assoc should be paying for his car and anyone block heaters.

Was in a high-rise condo in FL for month. I was renter but in the utility room area of the condo, it had a bank of small digital meters, One for:
Water/Cold
Water/Hot
Electric
AC/Heat

In the parking deck, there were locked outlets (that had small digital meters above them) that you could plug in your LSEV (street legal Golf Carts). you un-lock the outlet, plug the car in, then re-lock with the plug in.

I would guess the unit owner got a bill once a month for there usage.
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Old 10-19-2012, 05:50 PM
 
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I don't think the condo Assoc should be paying for his car and anyone block heaters.

Was in a high-rise condo in FL for month. I was renter but in the utility room area of the condo, it had a bank of small digital meters, One for:
Water/Cold
Water/Hot
Electric
AC/Heat

In the parking deck, there were locked outlets (that had small digital meters above them) that you could plug in your LSEV (street legal Golf Carts). you un-lock the outlet, plug the car in, then re-lock with the plug in.

I would guess the unit owner got a bill once a month for there usage.

I would think that's the way they'll go for electric cars.
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