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Old 12-10-2012, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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It’s a shame that Baltimore is nationally misunderstood as a dying city/region. Day in and day out, post after post, people claim that it is a dying city whose best days are behind her. Unfortunately, speaking one's opinion with little to no research seems to have become this nation's new pastime, just look at the Tea Party.

The reality in Baltimore's case is that the metro area remains among one of the most vibrant in the country, with no signs of slowing down. Most would agree that the city's location between Washington DC & Philadelphia is what makes the city proper's full revitalization almost certain.

Please refer page 19 of the following link:

http://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKi...ll_Report.ashx

As you can see, the belief of Baltimore's decline is nothing more than a uneducated myth. Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, St. Louis, Kansas City, & Cincinnati all declined in prominence on the list of America's 30 largest economies. New Orleans, Milwaukee, Columbus, Indianapolis, & Buffalo fell out of the top 30 altogether. Baltimore proved resilient and managed to move from #18 on the list to #17, yet on this very city vs. city forum, Baltimore is continuously compared to the likes of Buffalo, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh. This data should prove mind numbing for those who view Baltimore only through the lens of The Wire. Sure we have some grit, and some crime, but we’ve got a little bit of money & culture that's often overlooked.

When will this myth based off of ignorant generalities cease to exist?
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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The size of the economy is irrelevant. what matters is the basic question: Do people want to live there? I know I don't.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:37 PM
 
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Well look at is this way if People are leaving the city then the City isn't all that great, the Suburbs are if the Metro is growing
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:39 PM
 
Location: NYC
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It’s a shame that Baltimore is nationally misunderstood as a dying city/region. Day in and day out, post after post, people claim that it is a dying city whose best days are behind her. Unfortunately, speaking one's opinion with little to no research seems to have become this nation's new pastime, just look at the Tea Party.

The reality in Baltimore's case is that the metro area remains among one of the most vibrant in the country, with no signs of slowing down. Most would agree that the city's location between Washington DC & Philadelphia is what makes the city proper's full revitalization almost certain.

Please refer page 19 of the following link:

http://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKi...ll_Report.ashx

As you can see, the belief of Baltimore's decline is nothing more than a uneducated myth. Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, St. Louis, Kansas City, & Cincinnati all declined in prominence on the list of America's 30 largest economies. New Orleans, Milwaukee, Columbus, Indianapolis, & Buffalo fell out of the top 30 altogether. Baltimore proved resilient and managed to move from #18 on the list to #17, yet on this very city vs. city forum, Baltimore is continuously compared to the likes of Buffalo, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh. This data should prove mind numbing for those who view Baltimore only through the lens of The Wire. Sure we have some grit, and some crime, but we’ve got a little bit of money & culture that's often overlooked.

When will this myth based off of ignorant generalities cease to exist?
Hey a post about Baltimore on the UP forum that I had nothing to do with! Awesome!

I agree that the greater US has little understanding that much of Baltimore is truly "the land of pleasant living," like our favorite beer can says:



However, the bad is very bad, and ignored by the moneyed class you mention. This is a violent place in some areas, the high taxes and overall poor performance of schools keep many interested folks out, the politics are ludicrous. Gentrification is usually seen as the solution here, "who cares where the displaced miscreants go." Where they go is the stable residential neighborhoods (like mine) and cause trouble there. So the problem hasn't actually been solved.

I've got more love for this place than most; my roots here are so deep there are streets named after my clan. It's relatively inexpensive, has wonderful cultural, educational and entertainment opportunities, is well-located, etc etc.

However it's a very, very frustrating place to live, a lot of the time, and I feel like it is getting moreso. The concerns of regular folks are not heard as loudly as the moneyd class down by the waterfront, that much is for sure. I grow more weary by the day.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:41 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Well look at is this way if People are leaving the city then the City isn't all that great, the Suburbs are if the Metro is growing
The outflow has slowed to a trickle, at this point. The mayor has said it's her goal to get 10,000 new families. She hasn't said how she's going to do it (I don't think she can).
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:01 PM
 
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Well look at is this way if People are leaving the city then the City isn't all that great, the Suburbs are if the Metro is growing
if people are leaving then the city almost certainly sucks.

if the city is staying stagnant, then people probably don't like it.

if the city is growing, it is normal.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I would certainly live in Baltimore! It will see it's shine one day soon.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:46 PM
 
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It’s a shame that Baltimore is nationally misunderstood as a dying city/region. Day in and day out, post after post, people claim that it is a dying city whose best days are behind her. Unfortunately, speaking one's opinion with little to no research seems to have become this nation's new pastime, just look at the Tea Party.

The reality in Baltimore's case is that the metro area remains among one of the most vibrant in the country, with no signs of slowing down. Most would agree that the city's location between Washington DC & Philadelphia is what makes the city proper's full revitalization almost certain.

Please refer page 19 of the following link:

http://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKi...ll_Report.ashx

As you can see, the belief of Baltimore's decline is nothing more than a uneducated myth. Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, St. Louis, Kansas City, & Cincinnati all declined in prominence on the list of America's 30 largest economies. New Orleans, Milwaukee, Columbus, Indianapolis, & Buffalo fell out of the top 30 altogether. Baltimore proved resilient and managed to move from #18 on the list to #17, yet on this very city vs. city forum, Baltimore is continuously compared to the likes of Buffalo, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh. This data should prove mind numbing for those who view Baltimore only through the lens of The Wire. Sure we have some grit, and some crime, but we’ve got a little bit of money & culture that's often overlooked.

When will this myth based off of ignorant generalities cease to exist?
If you read the thread "Cities have more children than the suburbs?", then you'll have your answer.

There's a reason why Baltimore is viewed the way it is.
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:56 PM
 
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It’s a shame that Baltimore is nationally misunderstood as a dying city/region. Day in and day out, post after post, people claim that it is a dying city whose best days are behind her.
That would imply that Baltimore once had good days.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:17 PM
 
Location: NYC
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That would imply that Baltimore once had good days.
It most certainly did.
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