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Old 12-18-2012, 09:48 PM
 
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I think I know the mall you're talking about:

Google Maps.

The satellite and Earth views show that the mall is definitely a bit out in the country. I've been known to describe that area as "semi-rural." There are two fairly large towns and a number of little villages in the vicinity. This stretch of road runs between the two large towns. There is a strip of widely spaced chain restaurants and small malls, with the rest of the road between these two towns passing mostly farms and some scattered woods.
Yeah that would be development in the rural fringe.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Work in NYC - Live in Philly - Transplant from Miami
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Outlet Mall is usually built in a more rural area on purpose - I read it somewhere. So that when people took a 45 minutes trip there would feel it is such a waste if they don't get anything to buy.
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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Yeah that would be development in the rural fringe.
Pretty much. That stretch of road is technically within the metropolitan area of Springfield, MA. It's pretty clear that this is true only because that county is part of the Springfield metro, as that locality lies north of S'field's true commuter suburbs. Still, it's close to the outer fringe of Springfield's suburbs, and so, within reach of a mid-sized metro area, or at least a larger small metro.

That mall is on the small side, and the local vicinity has two fairly good-sized towns as well as a number of smaller towns and little villages scattered among the farm country, so even though there is clearly some rural character, all those population centers scattered around the rural countryside apparently add up to enough population to support a mall that's not especially large. Something that also makes a significant contribution to the market for that commercial strip where the mall is located is that there are several colleges nearby, including UMass, which has something like 25k students.

It's farm country around there, but it's nothing like, say, eastern Montana, where a town of a couple of thousand, if that, might be the only significant population center among many miles of several-thousand-acre ranches.
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:48 AM
 
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In northeastern PA there are three along a pretty rural 15-mile stretch of Route 61 in Schuylkill County - Schuylkill Mall, Fairlane Village Mall, and Cressona Mall. Not surprisingly, they apparently aren't doing that well right now.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:30 AM
 
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No malls usually require a catchment area of, if you're talking a large enclosed mall, at least 100,000 I would say.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:26 PM
 
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I always imagined outlet malls being in smaller populated suburban areas with a tourist draw. And enclosed malls being in larger populated suburban areas.

I think of cities with malls more suburban than cities without malls.
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:36 PM
 
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In Pennsylvania, Columbia Mall, at the Buckhorn (Bloomsburg) exit of I-80 and Schuylkill Mall, at the Frackville exit of I-81 are two that come immediately to mind.
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:04 AM
 
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Rule of thumb I heard is a minimum of 250K population within 15 minutes drive is required to support a regional mall. That rules out most rural areas. Perhaps outlet malls can draw from a wider area.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:54 PM
 
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Rule of thumb I heard is a minimum of 250K population within 15 minutes drive is required to support a regional mall. That rules out most rural areas. Perhaps outlet malls can draw from a wider area.
No it's usually 150,000 population which usually draws from whole counties.

Outlet malls count on at least 50,000 population and a strong tourist population.
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:47 AM
 
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In northeastern PA there are three along a pretty rural 15-mile stretch of Route 61 in Schuylkill County - Schuylkill Mall, Fairlane Village Mall, and Cressona Mall. Not surprisingly, they apparently aren't doing that well right now.
Wow, you are right. Those malls are in more rural settings. Shows that malls don't survive in those type of settings.
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