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You still need the metal screw bands, but the lids and rubber rings themselves are reusable. No doubt the lids outlast the rubber rings.
You missed the part where she said she gave up canning and freezes instead?
Yes, those were the lids I was referring to. Those aren't the only ones, but they are definitely the most popular.
No, I didn't miss that part because I was answering what she said about all the difficulties of canning. I never found it that time consuming (it's a hell of a lot less time than what I spend on this forum), arduous or all that expensive and it's enjoyable trying different kinds of recipes. I still don't quite understand what makes canning such an arduous process, but I admit people have different conceptions for what time consuming, arduous or expensive are. It seems pretty fast and painless for some, and not for others.
Yes, those were the lids I was referring to. Those aren't the only ones, but they are definitely the most popular.
No, I didn't miss that part because I was answering what she said about all the difficulties of canning. I never found it that time consuming (it's a hell of a lot less time than what I spend on this forum), arduous or all that expensive and it's enjoyable trying different kinds of recipes. I still don't quite understand what makes canning such an arduous process, but I admit people have different conceptions for what time consuming, arduous or expensive are. It seems pretty fast and painless for some, and not for others.
I didn't know about those lids because I quit canning, started freezing tomatoes instead. I am not the one who said it was arduous, or especially expensive (which if you read my posts for meaning instead of just to pick up a few words and blast back you would know), but it is time consuming and it does cost something. There is no doubt about that. If I didn't want to do it I wouldn't do it.
I doubt the woman who wrote that article knows what she's talking about. Still, after all this discussion. She thinks it would be a great idea to replace front yard landscaping with vegetables. Well, then what do you do with all these vegetables?
Not to mention I don't appreciate the name calling, e.g. "grump", "crank", etc.
I didn't know about those lids because I quit canning, started freezing tomatoes instead. I am not the one who said it was arduous, or especially expensive (which if you read my posts for meaning instead of just to pick up a few words and blast back you would know), but it is time consuming and it does cost something. There is no doubt about that. If I didn't want to do it I wouldn't do it.
I doubt the woman who wrote that article knows what she's talking about. Still, after all this discussion. She thinks it would be a great idea to replace front yard landscaping with vegetables. Well, then what do you do with all these vegetables?
Not to mention I don't appreciate the name calling, e.g. "grump", "crank", etc.
There's actually been a considerable amount of innovation in cheaper devices and the spread of ideas and techniques to make gardening and preserving food less of a hassle in recent years and part of it is driven by the fact that there are a lot of people who proselytize and are interested in these things (like the woman in the article). It can be considerably cheaper and easier than perhaps it was in the past--all I know is that it takes considerably little effort, time, or costs for me. I don't understand what rationale you had for saying that the woman who wrote the article had no idea what she was talking about--and even then, I don't see anything wrong with what she wrote. Some people want to use that space for gardens. Others want a different kind of landscape aside from lawns so as to have to use less water and do less management. She reported on it and that's it. I don't see the rest of the assumptions being made here.
Also, going for a large variety and ones that come in at different times of the year is a good way to not get inundated. You can also eat vegetables when they're still soft, small and tender (which are often sold at a premium in supermarkets) to cut down on the total amount.
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What irked me about the article was that it is unrealistic. What's the big deal with putting the vegetable garden in the back yard, and having some nice ornamentals in the front? Fruit trees are a lot of work too. They are very insect prone. Someone planted an apricot tree in the front yard of our old house; when DH cut it down as it was dying, it was infested with bugs. It also irked me that as we had been talking about canning, etc, in the thread, that I went to the effort to look up the cost of the items one would need (let alone one's time; I have to take a vacation day plus use up weekends to do it in the fall), I was told that was "not aligned with the meaning of this thread". Why is that? Is it because it's not so "Kumbaya-ish, and implies a lot of work? Just what IS the meaning of this thread then?
I wonder why you didn't just say that is was unrealistic and point out why at the beginning. However you feel about your posts, if that was your argument, it wasn't obvious to me.
As to canning, it wasn't clear that you were pointing out how much could be grown, even in a front yard, and that preservation (or disposal) would be necessary. In the contexts of the posts, I took it to mean that people who were serious about growing an edible front yard hadn't adequately considered the cost of keeping all that food.
I wonder why you didn't just say that is was unrealistic and point out why at the beginning. However you feel about your posts, if that was your argument, it wasn't obvious to me.
As to canning, it wasn't clear that you were pointing out how much could be grown, even in a front yard, and that preservation (or disposal) would be necessary. In the contexts of the posts, I took it to mean that people who were serious about growing an edible front yard hadn't adequately considered the cost of keeping all that food.
Sometimes it's hard to convey what one thinks is obvious on an internet board.
Sometimes it's hard to convey what one thinks is obvious on an internet board.
The bold is true.
I hear you. Sorry if I was insulting, don't mean to be.
I guess they wouldn't be very serious then if they aren't actually thinking about any of that. It'd at the very least be considered odd.
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