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View Poll Results: What should the quality of public transportation be?
There shouldn't be public transportation 10 15.87%
Bare bones 0 0%
High enough to keep the people who truly need it using it 2 3.17%
Sufficient in a pinch 1 1.59%
Adequate 0 0%
Reliable 4 6.35%
Better than expected 1 1.59%
Good 8 12.70%
Excellent 22 34.92%
Meets all my standards, and exceeds them. 15 23.81%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-14-2013, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Regardless of where you live, work, go to school, vacation, etc., what should the quality* of public transportation be (also factoring in that you pay taxes) if you personally may or may not ever use it?

Please feel free to explain your vote.
*Quality meaning: overall expenditures, experience, environment, efficiency and end points.


Or if you want, you can use a number between 0 & 10 to set your vote if my descriptions were not to your liking.

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Old 01-14-2013, 12:46 PM
 
Location: IL
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Public transport quality and frequency should depend on the density of the population base and the wants/needs of the people that live there.
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Where?
And what is "quality"?

I think they improved the quality here by eliminating bus routes, reducing bus stop frequency, and concentrating more frequent service along several corridors. Someone else might think the lowered quality because they have to walk over a mile to the bus stop from their house as I do rather than it stopping two blocks away. I would call it better than expected here, but it's also no more than sufficient in a pinch. It'd take me an hour to get to a friends house that is a 10 minute drive, for example. Or 30 minutes to the grocery store, 5 minute drive. In a pinch or if I really needed to, I could make the 20 minute walk. And as long as I'm going somewhere along the corridors, it would only be 1.5-2x as slow as driving from there. I'd only use it if I had no other option, and even then I'd walk most places since I can get most stuff in a mile, mile and half anyway.
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Where?
And what is "quality"?

I think they improved the quality here by eliminating bus routes, reducing bus stop frequency, and concentrating more frequent service along several corridors. Someone else might think the lowered quality because they have to walk over a mile to the bus stop from their house as I do rather than it stopping two blocks away. I would call it better than expected here, but it's also no more than sufficient in a pinch. It'd take me an hour to get to a friends house that is a 10 minute drive, for example. Or 30 minutes to the grocery store, 5 minute drive. In a pinch or if I really needed to, I could make the 20 minute walk. And as long as I'm going somewhere along the corridors, it would only be 1.5-2x as slow as driving from there. I'd only use it if I had no other option, and even then I'd walk most places since I can get most stuff in a mile, mile and half anyway.
From the OP:

*Quality meaning: overall expenditures, experience, environment, efficiency and end points.

Basically my question is (follow up by voting on one of my 10 predetermined responses), when you step on public transit, what quality are you expecting from it, considering you help pay (taxes) for it?
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:24 PM
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When I step on the bus, I expect it to be clean and to get me to my destination.
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:39 PM
 
Location: IL
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When I step on the bus, I expect it to be clean and to get me to my destination.
I would add: Close to the scheduled time.
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Western Massachusetts
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I would add: Close to the scheduled time.
For buses that don't arrive on time, the Italians have found a solution:

What To Do When The Bus Doesn't Come And You Want To Scream. An Experiment : Krulwich Wonders... : NPR
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:46 PM
 
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Where?
And what is "quality"?

I think they improved the quality here by eliminating bus routes, reducing bus stop frequency, and concentrating more frequent service along several corridors. Someone else might think the lowered quality because they have to walk over a mile to the bus stop from their house as I do rather than it stopping two blocks away.
One of the problems with public transit is that it is used by handicapped and elderly people too. Walking over a mile isn't a problem for someone young and healthy and not too encumbered but for others that kind of walk can be a problem and make it less useful.
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:02 PM
 
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When I step on the bus, I expect it to be clean and to get me to my destination.
Get me to my desination is frankly the most important. The chicago burbs have PACE busses which is highly geared to the nine to five worker...PACE has routes that shut down around 7pm. where as the CTA is pretty much still running most routes till 8:00p.m. and has some routes that are late night and 24/7. CTA is much more likely to be useful for someone who needs to be at work before 9 or can not allways be out by 7p.m.(or so).
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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No more and no less that what is required and no more than what the taxpayer is willing to pay.

[there is no perfect answer]
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