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Old 01-18-2013, 02:56 PM
 
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Okay so they built the down town there because they did not want the down town to get flooded.

Also Who was the planner in LA that built most of the roads and where did he get that idea from and was most of roads in LA put in before before they build any thing. Well was LA planned city before they build any thing.Not like other cities that just spread out.

If I remember south central and many other places in LA was planned street care suburb that why many places look more urban suburb look and feel than your typical urban city or suburb city.

The ideas was very very very very short city blocks , grid system, building facing the street almost at street level or very tight parking and streetcar line living in bungalow house but walking to street care line.But many places the streetcar got removed and other places never put in place.

I have not seen grid system like this in other countries.
Much of inner LA was initially built as streetcar suburbs. That's one reason why the bus corridors from Downtown LA out to about La Brea are so well used, the city was built for street transit.

There's no single document that laid out all the streets in Los Angeles, but one which was very influential was the Major Streets Plan of 1924. http://libraryarchives.metro.net/DPG...treet_plan.pdf
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Much of inner LA was initially built as streetcar suburbs. That's one reason why the bus corridors from Downtown LA out to about La Brea are so well used, the city was built for street transit.

There's no single document that laid out all the streets in Los Angeles, but one which was very influential was the Major Streets Plan of 1924. http://libraryarchives.metro.net/DPG...treet_plan.pdf
That is an incredibly interesting article / archive. One paragraph states that someday the San Fernando Valley could grow to accommodate up to 400,000 residents.

Also interesting is that the report states Los Angeles has unusually small road sizes and there is a graph that shows Los Angeles having the smallest percentage of the CBD dedicated to streets (of the cities on the graph).
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:41 PM
 
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Urban planning, and particularly the use of the grid, is a political act that requires a lot of centralized power. Extremely centralized ancient empires, like Rome and China, used it. It was rediscovered by Louis XIV at Versailles and slowly became the model. Colonial America was very decentralized and apart from a few places like Philly, the government never had the authority to shape space in such a large way. All that changed after the revolution. This is manifest in New York: the Financial District is Colonial and the rest of Manhattan (apart from Greenwich Village) is Federal.
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:17 AM
 
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Urban planning, and particularly the use of the grid, is a political act that requires a lot of centralized power. Extremely centralized ancient empires, like Rome and China, used it. It was rediscovered by Louis XIV at Versailles and slowly became the model. Colonial America was very decentralized and apart from a few places like Philly, the government never had the authority to shape space in such a large way. All that changed after the revolution. This is manifest in New York: the Financial District is Colonial and the rest of Manhattan (apart from Greenwich Village) is Federal.

I think it the other way around the US is the most free country in the world when it comes to city planning. In Canada and Europe it is almost next to impossible to build anything.

The developers and companies have no control how building or road will be in Canada and Europe.In Canada I heard from people in the past 5 years almost a country bylaw that all plazas must hide the parking lot of evil of big parking lot of cars.

When it comes to apartment buildings you not allowed to build 2,3 ,4,5 story apartments or condos buildings it must be highrise do to 60s tower in park concept and can only be build in areas improved .

The wide highrise apartments or condos are banned now and tall look in Toronto

You not allowed to build any house with out basement.Normally some retail will not even be allowed in called retail zone like night clubs , some bars ,hotels , motel , strip clubs ,car wash , car dealers , used cars ,car parts and other service non retail is only allowed in industrial zones.

The main street miracle mile is banned in Canada now.

Most roads the developers build not the city but bust be improved .Most city planners have little to no say on what can be build or how it looks the city and such has the government has standards that everyone must follower.


The US is very anti big government so I don't see how centralized power would be allowed in fact in US cities are allowed to have their own way how city will look and feel not the case in Canada or Europe the government plays big part. Many south west cities do things that north eat cities would not even allow to talk about than allow to happen.


Places like Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, North and South Carolina the road system is such a mess that when you look at map you get lost to go 3 miles you will be taking many and I say again many roads.
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