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Old 01-17-2013, 12:29 AM
 
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For me, I always thought it was cool, but also just something that really wasn't a big deal. On L.A. curbed, Beverley Residents hated the plan for a building near their neighborhood, and they lowered it to 5 stories, but now residents want it lower..

To me it just seems pretty funny to be all pissed cuz you can see a building from your window..
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Well, that's LA. I remember reading about how residents who lived on the hills north of West Hollywood were afraid of the area turning into Manhattan. Somehow, the towers would "ruin the view of the city".

This also happens in cities that have/had height limits. San Francisco NIMBYers had made complaints that new skyscrapers would cause to big of a shadow of some of the city's downtown parks. And actually, I've heard this happening in Manhattan as well.

I guess it's more common than I thought.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:11 AM
 
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For me, I always thought it was cool, but also just something that really wasn't a big deal. On L.A. curbed, Beverley Residents hated the plan for a building near their neighborhood, and they lowered it to 5 stories, but now residents want it lower..

To me it just seems pretty funny to be all pissed cuz you can see a building from your window..
Actually - here's the deal. Home owners are amazingly risk averse. They fear the loss of something much more than they anticipate a possible gain. They almost always over estimate negative impacts and almost never factor in positive impacts on a potential development. This is common - we aren't entirely rational actors in the market place. There are always stories horror stories that people tell in any community about the horrible building that did x,y and z to the neighborhood. But these are almost always exceptions and not rules and that well developed multi-story buildings can work very very well in a neighborhood context and do is some of the great neighborhoods all over the world.

The question is, why do we give such risk aversion so much weight.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:29 AM
 
Location: IL
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I really only see the issue being within a few houses away from a multistory building or commercial building. It can increase traffic, reduce available parking, create undesired smells, animals (restaurants), etc
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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A lot of Americans, unfortunately, believe that a "prestigious" community is one composed entirely of single family detached houses. American zoning, with the "R1" single family zone at the top of the zoning pyramid, has often supported this attitude.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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All of this is hilarious when you take into context the neighborhood this is happening in. This isn't Mayberry or anything - the giant, ugly monstrosity that is the Beverly Center is a stones throw away from this proposed development.

watts, ca - Google Maps
watts, ca - Google Maps
watts, ca - Google Maps (I believe it is going on this gas station lot)
watts, ca - Google Maps

So that is the neighborhood, a five-story apartment is definitely out of character right?

watts, ca - Google Maps
I suppose it is probably those people on Alfred Street to the right of La Cienega. I guess a five story building would block your view of that beaut that is the Beverly Center, yeah? It's just funny, wouldn't you rather be rid of a gross, smelly, noisy gas station? The residents probably don't use it much, the prices are probably through the roof in that location.

These people are mostly just idiots, probably seeking a cash-grab.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:41 AM
 
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I dont think they really care about the look of the building, they just don't want low income voucher housing within smelling distance.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:27 PM
 
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I dont think they really care about the look of the building, they just don't want low income voucher housing within smelling distance.
looks like a job for George Lucas..
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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a single tall multistory building would look rather awkward and out of place in a neighborhood made up of single-family homes. it would stick out like a sore thumb. so I would't blame them for being against it.
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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a single tall multistory building would look rather awkward and out of place in a neighborhood made up of single-family homes. it would stick out like a sore thumb. so I would't blame them for being against it.
Um did you even look at the streetviews? It's not a hypothetical situation, it is a real building in a real neighborhood, that does have a lot of single family homes within the super-block but the arterial streets are lined with buildings between 3-6 stories and kitty-corner from the job site is the 10 story megalith that is the Beverly Center. It wouldn't look weird in that setting, in fact the gas station that currently exists is what looks weird. This building is completely in character with the rest of the neighborhood.

EDIT: In the streetviews ignore the fact that I was looking at Watts when I linked to the site, it is in Beverly Glen.
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