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Old 01-24-2013, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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You're probably right about traffic and other surface factors causing a ripple effect all the way through to the beginning of the line. What if, though, there were enough buses circulating the route, that instead of having a fixed schedule, they could just say "runs every 8 minutes or less" so that way if the line gets backed up, nobody would even really notice.
And what happens when you have a big three alarm fire in a building on the bus route. The street gets shut and all the busses along with all the other traffic gets detoured onto other already gridlocked streets. Your loop is broken and the entire route grinds to a halt. People way away from the fire on the other side of the loop will be wondering why their busses are not showing up.

You are trying to make it too complicated I think. Unnecessarily long routes are not efficient. You are better off having four short straight routes instead of a loop. Then if you have a problem in one place, at least the other three routes are not effected.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:53 PM
 
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You are trying to make it too complicated I think. Unnecessarily long routes are not efficient. You are better off having four short straight routes instead of a loop. Then if you have a problem in one place, at least the other three routes are not effected.
Straight routes are more comprehensible to passengers than loops. The ideal route goes down one street, then everybody knows it is, for example, the Sunset Blvd. bus.

It's true that excessively long routes are more likely to get delayed (unless of course they're operating in a dedicated lane). The problem is more likely to be traffic than emergencies. But a route has to be long enough to gather enough people to make it worthwhile. Here in the East Bay it looks like the bare minimum viable length for a route is about 2 miles, and that's on a strong corridor that connects to another major transit line. Otherwise you're probably looking at 4 or 5 miles, at least here.
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