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Old 01-29-2013, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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EDIT: It's 4:00 and driving from DTLA to my apartment is 30 minutes (to go 6 miles) and transit is 32 minutes. I am willing to bet that in the next hour and a half that drive time doubles.
It's 4:41 Pacific Time.

Driving time from DTLA to Hollywood - 19 minutes

Transit time from DTLA to Hollywood - 40 minutes

Go cars!
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Yeah I know, just thought I'd bring it up. Most people would not realize that.
Well, I realize that. That's why I always compare travel times between points of equal distance. How could it be a fair comparison otherwise?

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Yes but all the freeways go through DTLA, causing congestion.
I'm sure you have a lot of people like Lovehound and Katenik who don't even have to come close to DTLA when going to work. That's part of the reason why LA has lower commute times than its EC counterparts.

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Say what you want, but my wife does that trip every day. The days she takes the subway for some reason she magically gets home a half hour faster....
And that's her specific situation. All I know is that traffic.com puts the driving commute from Downtown LA to Hollywood at 12 minutes. Google Maps has it at 20. And Google Maps puts the transit commute at 40.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I've honestly never understood the big gripe about L.A. traffic. I mean, if the commute times are shorter than Boston's, then what's the big deal?

The worst traffic in the country, imo, is the stretch of I-95 between Richmond and Washington, DC. That is 90 miles of 8 lane traffic that's pure hell.

The second worse stretch of traffic is from the Woodrow Wilson Bridge to I-95 in Prince George's County.

The third worst stretch of traffic is I-95 crossing the George Washington Bridge in Washington Heights, Manhattan.

I think DC gets hammered the worst because it gets the entire EC's traffic.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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5:07 p.m. Pacific Time

Driving time from Downtown Los Angeles to Hollywood - 18 minutes

Transit time from Downtown Los Angeles to Hollywood - 40 minutes

You could probably stop at an In 'N Out Burger on the way home and still beat transit!
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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5:07 p.m. Pacific Time

Driving time from Downtown Los Angeles to Hollywood - 18 minutes

Transit time from Downtown Los Angeles to Hollywood - 40 minutes

You could probably stop at an In 'N Out Burger on the way home and still beat transit!
That's cool, right now for me it is 27 minutes transit 22 minutes driving - a little while ago they were even. So I was wrong about it doubling up by 5:30. She's driving today so I'll have to see how long it takes her to get here, maybe she is just exaggerating her drive times (wouldn't be a shocker).

Not sure what you are trying to prove, there is no doubt that driving is more efficient in Los Angeles and just about everywhere, and I never indicated otherwise. Typically in my wife's experience the transit commute is shorter on the way home than the drive. It is usually longer on the way there, traffic for some reason is lighter going into the city in the morning.

I'm still standing by Los Angeles having worse traffic than Boston. I've only experienced DC traffic twice and yes both times it was awful and pretty close to LA level (one time was with a person on their commute home from DT DC to Alexandria). I could see how it has worse traffic.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I'm still standing by Los Angeles having worse traffic than Boston. I've only experienced DC traffic twice and yes both times it was awful and pretty close to LA level (one time was with a person on their commute home from DT DC to Alexandria). I could see how it has worse traffic.
I was thinking more about traffic in the core. I have not experienced much of Boston outside of Cambridge, Back Bay, the South End, Roxbury and Dorchester. Those are the parts I'm most familiar with.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:53 PM
 
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What nobody mentioned yet is you can rent a car the few times you need one and probably come out cheaper than car payments and maintenance, though you still need to pay for gas. For some transit-bountiful cities there are even hourly rentals. Doesn't work well, though, if you lost your license for drunk driving. Such behavior is not legal here, and I hope it never is.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:08 AM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
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What nobody mentioned yet is you can rent a car the few times you need one and probably come out cheaper than car payments and maintenance, though you still need to pay for gas. For some transit-bountiful cities there are even hourly rentals. Doesn't work well, though, if you lost your license for drunk driving. Such behavior is not legal here, and I hope it never is.
There are now rentals by the minute: https://www.car2go.com

Parking and fuel included in your $.38/minute.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:48 PM
 
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What nobody mentioned yet is you can rent a car the few times you need one and probably come out cheaper than car payments and maintenance
Renting a car is expensive and takes a lot of time. It makes sense for very occasional use only.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Renting a car is expensive and takes a lot of time. It makes sense for very occasional use only.
Not if you subscribe to ZipCar or some other car sharing program. Of course they are in limited locations and can be cost-prohibitive for some, but seem to be cheaper / easier than the standard car rental. But honestly I have no idea because I am not a member But my wife went on a day trip with someone who was a member when we were in Boston, said it was really easy for her friend to pick up the car and return it and all of that stuff.
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