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Old 02-01-2013, 01:12 PM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
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I don't mind cars in particular and sometimes I enjoy driving, though I don't usually find driving fun.

My main for reason for disliking them is the changes in urban design they cause as well as lowering pedestrian volumes. And in some places, their noise is rather irritating.
^ my take as well. I'm kind of a car guy, though. They just don't mix well with my prefered type of devlopment.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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My main for reason for disliking them is the changes in urban design they cause as well as lowering pedestrian volumes. And in some places, their noise is rather irritating.
Cars aren't to blame for that. Cars don't build cities. People do.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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HiFi:



The rest of us:
Which Indiana Jones, though? Remember...Indy got possessed by the little Indian prince guy with the Voo Doo doll. So he was definitely a follower in that instance.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:18 PM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
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Cars aren't to blame for that. Cars don't build cities. People do.
Sure, let's dig up the planners of the 50s and smack 'em around instead. Sounds satisfying.

Hifi and Bajan Yankee:

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Old 02-01-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
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Which Indiana Jones, though? Remember...Indy got possessed by the little Indian prince guy with the Voo Doo doll. So he was definitely a follower in that instance.
I would say that's actually accurate. I don't think the car is the ultimate tool of individualism.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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darn straight handsup

and id even rather be dragged behind my car than settle for the bus.
Gotta admit this was a pretty good one.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Sure, let's dig up the planners of the 50s and smack 'em around instead. Sounds satisfying.

Hifi and Bajan Yankee:
Or dig up Henry Ford and Karl Benz and drive wooden stakes into their hearts.

Sprawl is not a necessary result of auto use although it is a natural one. You can have cars and still check sprawl. So the cars are not to blame.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:30 PM
 
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I find cars in poor taste due to the millions killed in crashes, the politics of oil, and the environmental impact, far more than for reasons of urban planning. And yet it is my only source of transportation because it is the only practical choice here. But it's not innately any more liberating than mass transit. Both require a huge infrastructure, but cars more than any other. It just so happens that we've prioritized car infrastructure here in the states. Your car still can't take you where there are no roads.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
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Your car still can't take you where there are no roads.
Hifi's can:

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Old 02-01-2013, 01:35 PM
 
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Hifi's can:
pretty close, just imagine that one with some more hardware on it




My first car was actually a beatup 1987 pontiac firebird, and I took it off roading all the time. I even went off a dirtbike jump with it once. sadly it didn't get any air, just popped the front tire and disconnected the exaust pipe and muffler from the body. I was still able to drive off though, didn't hit any 'road' for at least a mile.
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