U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Urban Planning
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Which city is more urban?
Detroit 12 41.38%
New Orleans 17 58.62%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-11-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Michigan
4,571 posts, read 7,038,503 times
Reputation: 3599

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by eschaton View Post
I do wonder if Detroit had much more extensive street trees which were lost at some point. That green space between the sidewalks and the street is just perfect for street trees, but most of those in Detroit seem to have been comparably recently planted.
Dutch Elm Disease wiped out a lot of city trees during the 70s.

Actually, here's a street that still has trees on it that was sort of similar to how much of the city looked prior to the disease.

Detroit, MI - Google Maps

Last edited by animatedmartian; 02-11-2013 at 11:24 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-13-2013, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Thunder Bay, ON
2,610 posts, read 3,764,345 times
Reputation: 1616
Some of the housing stock in Melbourne looks a lot like New Orleans outside the French Quarter... Melbourne VIC, Australia - Google Maps
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-14-2013, 12:14 AM
 
Location: New Orleans
797 posts, read 1,160,584 times
Reputation: 631
Quote:
Originally Posted by memph View Post
Some of the housing stock in Melbourne looks a lot like New Orleans outside the French Quarter... Melbourne VIC, Australia - Google Maps
Those do look somewhat like a single shotgun house. In fact, I might even call those shotgun houses.

New Orleans single shotgun houses:
Google Maps
Google Maps

In New Orleans the double shotgun is the more common type:
Google Maps
Google Maps
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll...,162.28,,0,4.2

Last edited by Jimbo_1; 02-14-2013 at 12:23 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-19-2013, 03:28 AM
 
406 posts, read 643,904 times
Reputation: 276
Quote:
Originally Posted by eschaton View Post
Leaving aside the effect of urban decay, I think that New Orleans has a vernacular style that is a bit more urban.

Here's a fairly intact street of historic housing near Detroit's core. The houses are closely spaced, but the extensive grassy front yards, albeit small, gives it a look which is semi suburban. This reminds me of Levittown. Corktown is the oldest remaining area of Detroit, and is more urban, but still looks streetcar suburban for the most part. There are some attractive rowhouses though.

In contrast, even discounting the French Quarter, (which is a uniquely urban area in the U.S.), New Orleans is still fairly urban. Richer, white areas look like this, while poor black areas look like this. The density is more clear in poor neighborhoods than rich ones, because street trees break up the view. There is a lot less vertical density, with most houses single-story, but the space between the houses is often at most a foot or two, which lends to a more solid streetwall feel. This style of housing is found more or less unbroken in almost all the residential neighborhoods south of 610.


the link you put for Corktown isn't actually Corktown, its North Corktown (formerly known as Briggs). this is actually corktown https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Detro...22.55,,0,-2.27
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-10-2013, 10:06 PM
 
1,108 posts, read 1,898,686 times
Reputation: 650
How about outside of the downtown and inner neighborhoods, which is more urban?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-10-2013, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
2,923 posts, read 3,639,885 times
Reputation: 2144
I like both of them, but outside of a few relatively small areas New Orleans looks a lot like any other older southern city. Detroit was once much more urban looking than it is now with half it's buildings knocked down, but I still think that it wins this.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Urban Planning
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top