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They like higher-end sources of transportation. They're not interested in taking the subway. God spare us the class warfare talk. I thought we got away from all that a while back!
In New York City, you really can't tell. Most of the ultra-rich will of course have drivers, but anyone with less than that you might see in the subway. A $30,000 car in NYC is not particularly expensive; actually, not really expensive at all, as it only gets you into the bottom of the "near luxury class" of cars. The cheapest Lexus retails for more, as does the cheapest BMW.
We need to eliminate the gas tax and replace it with a mileage tax. Most lawn mowers run on gasoline and never run on the highways. Electric cars, so far a small part of the mix, pay no gas tax. And make it high enough that you pay 75% of the cost of the roads. Ideally make it so you pay more during high traffic volumes. A six lane highway may only be used to capacity four hours a day, the rest of the time two lanes will do.
Yes, and let's charge the buses this mileage tax multiplied by the number of seats. Some people seem to forget that buses use the road too.
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Originally Posted by nybbler
In New York City, you really can't tell. Most of the ultra-rich will of course have drivers, but anyone with less than that you might see in the subway. A $30,000 car in NYC is not particularly expensive; actually, not really expensive at all, as it only gets you into the bottom of the "near luxury class" of cars. The cheapest Lexus retails for more, as does the cheapest BMW.
I'm a great driver,and my insurance costs alone are $5088 for 2 cars,one an old 2007 Kia and the other a 2013 Nissan. Insurance is high around here just because we Jersey people have no fault insurance. That's stupid.
The Nissan is leased at 510 a month,so that's another $6120. Full coverage insurance.
The Kia is paid for,but I only have liability insurance.
Gas is 100 every week. So that's $4800..yearly.
Oh wait..there is tolls. Ezpass costs me $2080 yearly.
Add it all up...my costs are over $18000 yearly.
So,that $8000 in the article seems too LOW.
I didn't even factor in maintainence for the Kia.
As far a the cost of the Nissan,I'm paying a high rate,but that's because I'm paying for extra miles up front(18,000 yearly) and maintainance.
So,yeah,ithe article is real.
Btw,the Nissan cost 29,000 of i would have bought it.
Why not just raise the gas tax? Simpler, and I don't see it that bad that cars that consume less gas pay less, it's extra, but not all that high incentive.
I agree.
At the very least, the gasoline tax should cover the Full Cost of maintaining the highways.
Currently, it pays only about half. So non-drivers are subsidising drivers - usually thru Sales Tax.
I'm a great driver,and my insurance costs alone are $5088 for 2 cars,one an old 2007 Kia and the other a 2013 Nissan.
The Nissan is leased at 510 a month,so that's another $6120. Full coverage insurance.
The Kia is paid for,but I only have liability insurance.
Gas is 100 every week. So that's $4800..yearly.
Oh wait..there is tolls. Ezpass costs me $2080 yearly.
Add it all up...my costs are over $18000 yearly.
So,that $8000 in the article seems too LOW.
I didn't even factor in maintainence for the Kia.
As far a the cost of the Nissan,I'm paying a high rate,but that's because I'm paying for extra miles up front(18,000 yearly) and maintainance.
So,yeah,ithe article is real.
I guess people like you even out the people like me, which goes to show, averages don't mean much. Insurance sure is high in Jersey.
I agree.
At the very least, the gasoline tax should cover the Full Cost of maintaining the highways.
Currently, it pays only about half. So non-drivers are subsidising drivers - usually thru Sales Tax.
How fair is that?
And we are all subsidizing transit; here in Colorado, every time we buy something, even a tube of toothpaste.
Since you excluded the coasts, Chicago. There may be other factors you want to consider.
Yes.
I lived there for 2 1/2 years (three winters), and it is just too cold.
Maybe Denver. I should look at that more closely. (new DV-CO thread : Old NC/SC thread )
But I was hoping for some more creative suggestions: Somewhere in TN. maybe?
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Not TN, where the most walkable cities are at WS-40:
City====== : WS : Population
Knoxville---- : 40 : 178,874
Memphis---- : 39 : 646,889
Chattanooga : 37 : 167,674
Nashville---- : 36 : 601,222
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