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Old 02-19-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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Maybe I'm different, but I actually dislike/hate driving my car most of the time. I'd rather have the majority of what I need (bank/grocery store/gym, etc.) within walking distance of my home and take public transit for further needs, like work. I enjoy driving if I have the road to myself, but that's not reality. And Denver seems to do a poor job with freeway construction. I can't believe how many freeways only have 2 or 3 lanes in each direction, causing unnecessary congestion. They should have added 2 lanes in each direction to the 225 while they were going to all the trouble.
Even those who never set foot on a train benefit from quality rail transportation. If denverian and many others find a good rail line to ride, more room for Katiana and friends on the freeway.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:08 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Even those who never set foot on a train benefit from quality rail transportation. If denverian and many others find a good rail line to ride, more room for Katiana and friends on the freeway.
You know, I find these comments annoying and condescending. denverian is not riding the light rail, in any event. It doesn't go where he needs to go.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:17 PM
 
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???
Sense-of-humor failure?
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:22 PM
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Not when that poster and others repeat it over and over again.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:25 PM
 
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I take it as "proven". (haha)
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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I have heard this "running out of oil" prediction for many a decade. (One of the advantages to being old, LOL!) Are you a follower of Al Bartlett, by any chance? He was predicting years ago that all the easily recovered oil had already been discovered, gas prices would go through the stratosphere, yada, yada, yada. New oil fields have been discovered since he first made these predictions, and technology has improved as well, making the oil not as expensive to recover as earlier predicted.
No I was thinking of M King Hubbert, who's predictions so far have been amazingly accurate. There have been no new oil fields found in the last 50 years. The oil that is be pumped out the ground today is from hydraulic fracturing. Basically they are breaking up rocks to get the last drops of oil out from under them. It's running out. You can believe it or not, but that doesn't change the fact.

When gas prices go to $10 - $20 a gallon, people are going to be riding public transit.


1976 Hubbert Clip - YouTube

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Old 02-19-2013, 07:47 PM
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LOL! I did a search for "when was the north sea oil discovered, and I found an announcement from yesterday!
RIGZONE - TAQA Makes North Sea Oil Discovery

Isn't it a little presumptuous to think that all the easily recoverable oil in the world has already been discovered?
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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US Oil Production: Record Rise in 2012 - ABC News

6.7 billion barrels versus Hubbert Curve prediction of around 4.5ish. Quite a difference.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:47 PM
 
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US Oil Production: Record Rise in 2012 - ABC News
6.7 billion barrels versus Hubbert Curve prediction of around 4.5ish. Quite a difference.
Yet...
The US continues to import a huge amount of oil - draining American wealth every minute of every day.

It is a pity that we cannot have two currencies:
+ A weak one for the car-dependent which gets weaker all the time, raising the dollar oil price,
and:
+ A stronger one for the rest of us that maintains it purchasing power
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Can we get back to light rail rather than talking about peak oil and inflation scares?
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