U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Urban Planning
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-20-2013, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
4,896 posts, read 7,666,018 times
Reputation: 4508

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81 View Post
Well, when a good solution comes up, we'll celebrate it.

The Segway is not it, for reasons stated above.

If you have a better idea, by all means share it with the class.
Isn't that supposed to be Lincolnian's line?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-20-2013, 08:14 AM
 
7,608 posts, read 9,465,582 times
Reputation: 8976
Quote:
Originally Posted by MIKEETC View Post
Because it looks silly.

[my opinion...]
I agree, completely.When I see perfectly healthy people using one, it just disgusts me.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2013, 08:17 AM
 
3,836 posts, read 4,719,218 times
Reputation: 2538
So I have another perspective on this as well - I've actually had occasion to use Segways in a work environment and let me tell you what they're extremely good for and what they are terrible at:

They're great a crossing large expanses of wide open spaces in a hurry. They're perfectly suited to an area with very large setbacks, buildings spaced far apart, it makes crossing a large parking lot a breeze.

They're terrible in congested, crowded sidewalks.

In otherwords, Segways are useful in low density environments where there is little chance of an accident and people will not walk or find walking to be extremely unpleasant.

They're much much much less useful, even a hinderance in the dense urban environments advocated by new urbanists who want to see more people on the street in closer quarters with more interesting stuff to look at or interact with as you walk.

So, really, Segways are perfect in a mid-20th century vision of the future - towers-in-the-park Jetson's kind of vision.

But for new urbanism and new urbanists - no, they don't really mesh.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2013, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Southern California
15,087 posts, read 17,580,911 times
Reputation: 10299
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lincolnian View Post
Dean Kamen had a vision for a clean vehicle designed to work within the constraints of existing infrastructure. He envisioned people leaving their home on their Segway, rolling onto a bus or train and then continuing on to the office. It was designed to go through a standard doorway and to be used on a sidewalk.

It does have built in security and a means to lock it to a rack. The primary purpose was to extend the walkability range to reduce driving.

It seems like instead of applauding inventors who are trying to find solutions to our environmental challenges more people find greater satisfaction in celebrating their failures even though these solutions are necessary for our future prosperity.

Other countries are capitalizing on the advantages of finding solutions to our environmental and societal challenges and will have a leg up when the problems become apparent to the masses.
Other countries have embraced the Segway and it's use is commonplace?

[where?]
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2013, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
32,406 posts, read 59,910,649 times
Reputation: 54063
Quote:
Originally Posted by Komeht View Post
They're terrible in congested, crowded sidewalks.
That's what I was thinking -- too risky when pedestrians are moving that much slower than the Segway, which doesn't seem to have a pedestrian's ability to maneuver quickly or to stop on a dime. And if a wayward pedestrian crashes into another, the risk of injury isn't as great.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2013, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
14,079 posts, read 16,109,257 times
Reputation: 12647
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81 View Post
That's what I was thinking -- too risky when pedestrians are moving that much slower than the Segway, which doesn't seem to have a pedestrian's ability to maneuver quickly or to stop on a dime. And if a wayward pedestrian crashes into another, the risk of injury isn't as great.
Sounds more and more like a big, expensive, bicycle. Going to Davis, pedestrian vs bicycle altercations were always fairly likely to occur despite bicycles taking over the road and pedestrians on to sidewalks for the most part. There was some walkway/bikeways that were "mixed-use" and it often got to the point where people just walked their bikes (or teeter-tottared into you as you were walking) since they couldn't balance them going 3 mph.

Also why I usually ride in the the lane with cars along the Embarcadero. Sidewalk gets too full so the stroller moms take to the bike lane since it's too hard to navigate their strollers through the crowds. You either spend all day dodging them or ride with the cars.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2013, 06:46 PM
nei nei won $500 in our forum's Most Engaging Poster Contest - Thirteenth Edition (Jan-Feb 2015). 

Over $104,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum and additional contests are planned
 
Location: Long Island / NYC
45,992 posts, read 42,037,172 times
Reputation: 14811
Only advantage over a bicycle is no sweat. But then, why not use an electric bicycle instead?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2013, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Southern California
15,087 posts, read 17,580,911 times
Reputation: 10299
Quote:
Originally Posted by nei View Post
Only advantage over a bicycle is no sweat. But then, why not use an electric bicycle instead?
There's still sweat.

[except it's caused by the embarrassment of using one]
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-21-2013, 02:02 PM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
6,473 posts, read 11,112,325 times
Reputation: 3117
Too big, too bulky. I think that's really the only reason why.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-21-2013, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
14,079 posts, read 16,109,257 times
Reputation: 12647
Quote:
Originally Posted by nei View Post
Only advantage over a bicycle is no sweat. But then, why not use an electric bicycle instead?
Or an electric car. I was next to a Tesla Roadster last Friday for a good 20 minutes. Consider I used about 10 times as much gas idling as moving in that time, the Tesla seemed a particularly good idea as it just shuts off when it stops.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Urban Planning
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top