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Old 02-24-2013, 09:22 AM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Look at the age distribution table for 2050. THE largest group of people are the Over 80s. I don't know how so many over 80s will be able to stay in the suburbs driving everywhere. So, all those 20 somethings looking for a party will be replaced by the Over 80s looking for a easy ride to their gerontologist.
The suburbs may change for the people. Most elderly "age in place". I'm talking more public transportation, etc. There are already plenty of services such as grocery delivery, special transit and so forth.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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For the last 70 years the trend has been to leave the city for the suburbs when you start a family. This trend is only slowly disappearing. What has greatly accelerated urban living is that many people are having kids later and having fewer kids. Dramatically so. So the city population stays much higher. I only see this trend continuing and even accelerating for the foreseeable future.

The interesting side bit to this trend is that, just like we've seen happen in Europe, as American cities become more desirable the city fringe and the suburbs become the new working class areas. And that does result in a racial divide as blacks and Hispanics continue to have more kids and still look to move to the safety of the suburbs without realizing that the suburbs, especially the inner ones, are decaying in many urban areas. Crime in the suburbs in many areas is increasing while crime in the cities is decreasing. I see this trend continuing which in short time will make cities even more desirable and more families will choose to remain. But not as many as might want to because many will not be able to afford it and will have to move closer to the fringe.
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Central CT, sometimes NH.
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As a recent entrant into the AARP club I am looking at doing my next rehab project in the city. As I get older, I find I am less interested in sitting and driving and more interested in walking and intertacting. I have several friends that are contemplating similar moves. It's an added bonus that RE is cheaper and there is less to maintain compared to the suburbs. This move can make retirement possible at least 5 years sooner.
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:10 PM
 
Location: London, NYC, DC
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As for New York City, assuming the census numbers are credible (Queens added more housing units than people from 2000-2010), there wasn't much of a difference between city and suburb growth rate. Many of the gentrifying neighborhoods showed no population change, or lost population as previous residents moved out. The areas that attracted gentrifiers and had large population gains were areas that had infill on previously non-residential land (waterfront areas of Williamsburg, for example). The decade where New York City grew much faster than its suburbs was the 90s, which was a decade of massive white flight with even more massive immigration into the city.
Considering Brooklyn's massive demographic overhaul from 2000-2010, I'd have loved for the census to be accurate, but it was riddled with problems, so I wouldn't take it as definitive as normally. That said, from 2010-11, estimates placed population growth at 0.9% (or 9.0% for a census interval), but even slowing down growth on average to half of this is still 4.5%, or almost double 2000-2010. I wouldn't say it's slowing down.
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Denver
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The interesting side bit to this trend is that, just like we've seen happen in Europe, as American cities become more desirable the city fringe and the suburbs become the new working class areas. And that does result in a racial divide as blacks and Hispanics continue to have more kids and still look to move to the safety of the suburbs without realizing that the suburbs, especially the inner ones, are decaying in many urban areas. Crime in the suburbs in many areas is increasing while crime in the cities is decreasing. I see this trend continuing which in short time will make cities even more desirable and more families will choose to remain. But not as many as might want to because many will not be able to afford it and will have to move closer to the fringe.
I saw this in Houston, which really shocked me. In Baton Rouge the hoods are all in the city or the northern part of the parish. All of our suburbs are safe, with a few small bad spots but thats anywhere. In Houston it seems a good number of the hoods are outside of the city limits, the city limits are so large I'm not keen on what is actually in or out of the city.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I saw this in Houston, which really shocked me. In Baton Rouge the hoods are all in the city or the northern part of the parish. All of our suburbs are safe, with a few small bad spots but thats anywhere. In Houston it seems a good number of the hoods are outside of the city limits, the city limits are so large I'm not keen on what is actually in or out of the city.
I still know lots of black people out here looking to move to places like Palmdale, Perris, and Moreno Valley. I used to try and tell tell them that they are making a mistake, but it only pisses people off and they don't believe me anyway.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:50 PM
 
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The Onion?

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A lot of people have been fooled by the Onion's spoofing articles. North Korea pounced on this one.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/kim...ive-for,30379/

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Location: Long Island / NYC
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The Onion?

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Yes, I realize it wasn't serious. But I thought it was appropriate for this thread.
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Yes, I realize it wasn't serious. But I thought it was appropriate for this thread.
Fair enough.

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