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Old 10-21-2013, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Our malls in Greater Vancouver are all very successful. This is because they were made to serve a smaller population and then the city grew through densification, so there's actually a shortage of indoor shopping malls for the current population, because you really need to be building from scratch to achieve a new shopping mall, whereas commercial store fronts are easy to build with infill and as a result there's something of a glut of these spaces. They've linked the shopping malls together with rapid transit so they're now expanding them into where the parking lots used to be and building condos, plazas, and parks on top of them, which expands the commercial space, helps address the housing shortage, and provides lots of new natural customers for the malls.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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University Village in Seattle does well. Given, it's designed more of a hybrid stripmall/lifestyle center so if you're in inclement weather you can park fairly close and hustle into the store. Most places have buildings entrances on both sides, so you can enter through the "service doors" on the parking lot side or the "quaint urban village doors" on the lifestyle center side.

I hate malls, so I'd rather deal with a bit of rain. Given, Seattle never gets blizzards and -30 degree weather. But I also wouldn't go shopping if it was in the middle of a blizzard either.
That is true, they tend to be more successful in the Northwest when the parking access is throughout. Though places like Bridgeport just outside of Portland is a great little lifestyle center except when you are looking for parking because all the little lots fill up so quick and make it impossible if you are just looking to swing in and stop at a specific store quickly.

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Seattle looks like it has a bunch of "traditional Main Street" looking commercial strips outside of downtown University District, Queen Anne, Capitol Hill maybe Ballard. And they seem to do well. So lifestyle center's issue won't really be the weather. Don't think weather's much of an issue unless someone wants to sit. Victoria had a small indoor mall within its downtown, perhaps that's a decent compromise.
Portland has this as well, something I love most about the Northwest has been the cities' ability to save and grow a number of these traditional Main Streets.
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:28 PM
 
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Here's a dead mall in Bakersfield:

Theater - East Hills Mall (East Hills Mall)

The Valley Plaza Mall and The Marketplace pretty much killed it.
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Old 10-30-2013, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island/NYC
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"Mall at the Source" is a mall near me that has been on a steady decline. It sits across the highway from the much larger and more successful Roosevelt Field Mall, the largest mall in the NYC area. Both are Simon malls. Another mall was added nearby recently and Roosevelt Field itself is slated for an expansion, so I think this one is done for.

Mall at The Source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It has an awkward layout, the first level is separated into two parts, you have to go up to the second level (or back outside) to access the different sides. I haven't been to this mall in about a year or two, but most of the stores are gone now I believe.

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Old 11-04-2013, 07:52 PM
 
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I remember how popular they were at one time, when I was as kid I wanted to live in a mall today you coudlnt pay me to go to a mall. they all have the same look the same, smell the same same bunch of teens hanging out causing trouble.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:25 PM
 
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Downtown Seattle malls seem to be doing well Also. Westlake Center is being remodeled and has added a new large Zara department store. And Rainer Square anounced they are going to remodel . Pacific Place is always fully leased also.
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Duluth, GA
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I remember how popular they were at one time, when I was as kid I wanted to live in a mall today you coudlnt pay me to go to a mall. they all have the same look the same, smell the same same bunch of teens hanging out causing trouble.
Same here. I grew up within ~20 minutes of three major malls, but every trip out to one of them was like going to Disney World. Even as little as 10 years ago, I'd spend a couple of hours window-shopping or even just people-watching. Now, whenever I go, I feel like a fossil. Nevermind the fact that most of the stores don't sell much of anything targeted to my age demographic [over 34, and we'll leave it at that, okay?].
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:41 AM
 
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What's the big deal? If they're no longer viable, tear them down, and replace them with something that is.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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What's the big deal? If they're no longer viable, tear them down, and replace them with something that is.
Well, the "big deal" is that our policy environment has created economic disincentives to redevelopment. Sometimes it's not worth it to developers to spend the money to rehab, much less raze and rebuild. Sometimes the most profitable option is to let it sit and collect rent from low-margin niche shops. And, sometimes, it's government apathy, or worse, which limits what one can do with a piece of land, economics aside.
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:05 AM
 
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Then, given the footprint these things have, especially, if their dead, someone needs to change the policies. Do communities/governments want what is essentially a giant dead hole?

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Well, the "big deal" is that our policy environment has created economic disincentives to redevelopment. Sometimes it's not worth it to developers to spend the money to rehab, much less raze and rebuild. Sometimes the most profitable option is to let it sit and collect rent from low-margin niche shops. And, sometimes, it's government apathy, or worse, which limits what one can do with a piece of land, economics aside.
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