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Old 03-06-2013, 09:04 AM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Greyfield is building on parking lot. Brownfield is building on former industrial land.

The type the OP is talking about is redeveloping a space to be less auto dominant. The example I gave used some of its surplus parking to build apartments, condos and new stores that are oriented to the street, and not the center of the parking lot.
Isn't that sort of splitting hairs? (Not that I care that much.) There was parking at the old steel mill, as well.
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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Isn't that sort of splitting hairs? (Not that I care that much.) There was parking at the old steel mill, as well.
Looks like there's a small difference:

Unlike brownfields (which feature actual or perceived levels of environmental contamination), greyfields typically do not require remediation in order to unlock value to an investor. The hidden value, in many cases, is the presence of underlying infrastructure (such as plumbing and sewer, electrical systems, foundations, etc.) allowing a developer to improve the site more efficiently through major or minor capital expenditures that may lead to increased rents and greater value.

Greyfield land - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Never heard of the term until this thread.
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
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Isn't that sort of splitting hairs? (Not that I care that much.) There was parking at the old steel mill, as well.
There is also a ton of heavy metal pollution at the old steel mill which required a bunch of EPA-approved remidiation, I'd bet.

It's a far different planning, design, and engineering process than building on a parking lot that saw no industrial use.

As far as them both reusing abandoned land, they are the same.
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:29 AM
 
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Isn't that sort of splitting hairs? (Not that I care that much.) There was parking at the old steel mill, as well.
brownfield meant bad/contaminated land that needed lots of paperwork,red tape, and investment to reuse. greyfield is a more recent word invented to mean brownfield but without the cleanup.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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And I take it that the former Phalen Shopping Center in St. Paul MN, which converted back to wetlands, is considered green field?
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:58 PM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
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And I take it that the former Phalen Shopping Center in St. Paul MN, which converted back to wetlands, is considered green field?
Blue field ?
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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