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Old 03-14-2013, 12:56 AM
 
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Agreed. And I will add that they (the "suburbanites") may not want to pay the cost premium that goes along with desirable inner city and charming inner ring suburban neighborhoods.

[choice - what a simple concept]
Link to me being against choice?

I don't disagree people are free to make choices.

[even terrible choices]

 
Old 03-14-2013, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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I don't disagree people are free to make choices.

[even terrible choices]
To you, living in the 'burbs is a terrible choice.

To other people, suburban living is a desirable choice.

Why is this fact so hard to grasp?
 
Old 03-14-2013, 06:55 AM
 
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To you, living in the 'burbs is a terrible choice.

To other people, suburban living is a desirable choice.

Why is this fact so hard to grasp?
People who live in sprawl may justify the misery by covering up the failings of suburbia to live up to the promise...some sit behind gated communities, modern fortresses designed to hide the real world just outside and mollify the lack of community with luxe cars and live the "lifestyle" - but deep down they hate it. I don't mean they hate their house..they love their house. Their houses are the last stand, the castle within the walled city to keep the horrors of sprawl at bay.
 
Old 03-14-2013, 07:23 AM
 
Location: "Daytonnati"
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People dont live in real places any more They live in the Society of the Spectacle, AKA The Matrix.

Places are not places, they brands. And people experience them as brand promises.

Everything is in quotation marks.
 
Old 03-14-2013, 07:43 AM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Urbanism is healthy norm. Pathological is a good word to describe the diseased morbidity of sprawl.
Healthy? You think it's healthy to live so far out of sync with nature that all your food has to be trucked in? I've heard "city" people, on this forum, say their kids have never seen a cow, don't know how to walk in grass, etc.
 
Old 03-14-2013, 07:47 AM
 
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To other people, suburban living is a desirable choice.
That's correct, there are many people that are afraid to be different/unique. People that don't like having to make any real important decisions (unless it's picking what brand of soap they buy at the supermarket).
 
Old 03-14-2013, 07:48 AM
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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Healthy? You think it's healthy to live so far out of sync with nature that all your food has to be trucked in? I've heard "city" people, on this forum, say their kids have never seen a cow, don't know how to walk in grass, etc.
Food has to be trucked in the suburbs as much cities. I can't remember seeing cows anywhere near where I grew up, though there probably was a small farm tucked in somewhere.
 
Old 03-14-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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Healthy? You think it's healthy to live so far out of sync with nature that all your food has to be trucked in? I've heard "city" people, on this forum, say their kids have never seen a cow, don't know how to walk in grass, etc.
That's ridiculous, any city is going to have a bunch of parks with grass in them and much more. Also, progressive cities are starting to acquire their food from local farms, if not growing it outright inside/on top of buildings and warehouses.
 
Old 03-14-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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Healthy? You think it's healthy to live so far out of sync with nature that all your food has to be trucked in? I've heard "city" people, on this forum, say their kids have never seen a cow, don't know how to walk in grass, etc.
Newsflash:

Cows don't live here:



or office out of a fine office park like this:


or shop for their grain here:



but people who live in sprawl do
 
Old 03-14-2013, 07:58 AM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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That's ridiculous, any city is going to have a bunch of parks with grass in them and much more. Also, progressive cities are starting to acquire their food from local farms, if not growing it outright inside/on top of buildings and warehouses.
People have said this stuff on this forum, so don't tell me I'm being ridiculous.
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