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Old 03-13-2013, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Cities were destroyed by the So-Called greatest generation and left to fester by the boomers. GenX has been instrumental in a return to sanity that Millennials have embraced with a passion. Their children will wonder how we lost our collective minds and truly live in a a transformed world.
What TF ever.

So what's your plan to save the world?

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There's a Philadelphia Inquirer columnist who just wants to cut I-95 entirely.
That would be entertaining, to say the least? We could just shunt everyone off into New Jersey and be done with it.
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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What TF ever.

So what's your plan to save the world?

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Deny people the choice of where to live and force everyone into the urban core.

[and like it]
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:25 PM
 
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That would be entertaining, to say the least? We could just shunt everyone off into New Jersey and be done with it.
Not quite that radical. She wants to cut I-95 from I-76 to I-676... so you'd shunt everyone onto the Surekill Distressway, Roosevelt Boulevard, and the Vine Street expressway instead. Because those roads are so underutilized as it is :-)
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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What TF ever.

So what's your plan to save the world?


That would be entertaining, to say the least? We could just shunt everyone off into New Jersey and be done with it.
More likely, just drive the jobs off the the 'burbs. San Francisco and Seattle's refusal to build infrastructure pretty much ensured that, so this is just the natural progression.
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:34 PM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
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San Francisco and Seattle are not struggling. They are also not absent of downtown freeways.
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Didn't SF demo its downtown riverfront freeway? It looked pretty ugly if I remember it correctly. And I think Seattle has plans to do something with its riverfront freeway as well.
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Maybe, but what replaced the Big Dig is still a dead zone:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bosto...269.58,,0,0.94

Large divided road instead with lights, and green space in the middle. The green space is nice, but the setting is still too noisy. And the space is really wide and feels like a barrier. I haven't been to Boston pre-Big Dig to see how it compares, but it's hard to bring back what was lost.
Yeah not the best for crossing - kinda cuts off the North End. Walking along it is nice though.
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:48 PM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
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Didn't SF demo its downtown riverfront freeway? It looked pretty ugly if I remember it correctly. And I think Seattle has plans to do something with its riverfront freeway as well.
Yes, I was mistaken - the Embarcadero Freeway did get demolished.

Seattle's earthquake-damaged highway 99 will be replaced by a tunnel under the Puget Sound. Interstate 5 still runs very much through downtown, though, and it isn't going anywhere.

I'm quite surprised anyone believes these measures are sealing the fate of these cities. Both have quite strong economies. Demolishing a freeway allows for more land to be developed, creating more jobs, more tax revenue, more housing, etc.

Vancouver has no downtown freeway and yeah, it's doing pretty damn well.
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Didn't SF demo its downtown riverfront freeway? It looked pretty ugly if I remember it correctly. And I think Seattle has plans to do something with its riverfront freeway as well.
In a round about way. After Loma Prieta, they decided not to rebuilt it and it was eventually replaced with the Boulevard that now runs in its place. It's a complete pain in the ass to navigate around, but it is much prettier.
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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Yeah not the best for crossing - kinda cuts off the North End. Walking along it is nice though.
Meh. I don't care for walking by noisy roads.

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