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Old 04-04-2013, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I heard malls are popular during the winter in the suburbs when you have little kids. Our friends can't say the word "Mall" in front of their kids unless they are going to bring them there. Our kids have never been to a mall, however.
They're a 'public' space filled with people and activity in the dead of winter, when that sort of thing doesn't happen outside. A kid can go to the mall and be in an expansive environment without having to worry about the elements, instead of being cooped up all day. It's nice.
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:04 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Malls get a lot of flak but I still there's something nostalgic about them, more the malls of the past than the current, rather sterile, characterless malls. I think they aren't going anywhere soon, but some people are too lazy even to walk around a mall. They'd rather park their car in a huge parking lot and visit a huge big box store or Walmart.
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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I heard malls are popular during the winter in the suburbs when you have little kids. Our friends can't say the word "Mall" in front of their kids unless they are going to bring them there. Our kids have never been to a mall, however.
Why have your kids never been to a mall?
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Shopping malls are car dependent so they will follow the changes that are coming for car transportation.

Some of the really nice newer malls could be re-purposed into really nice condo's or apartments.
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:40 PM
 
Location: IL
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Here is a current article on retail spaces, for malls in particular I pulle dout a quote. Recent quotes about malls doing better in areas that are better economically is called out here.

Large regional malls continue to fare better. Their vacancy rate fell for the sixth straight quarter, down 0.3 points to 8.3 percent, the steepest decline in a decade. Average asking rent rose 0.4 percent to $39.46 per square foot per year, its best increase since 2008.

Demand for space in U.S. strip malls still weak in first quarter | Reuters
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:26 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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They're a 'public' space filled with people and activity in the dead of winter, when that sort of thing doesn't happen outside. A kid can go to the mall and be in an expansive environment without having to worry about the elements, instead of being cooped up all day. It's nice.

Any weather that would keep us cooped up all day would be weather in which its too dangerous to drive to the mall.
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Old 04-04-2013, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Monmouth County, NJ & Staten Island, NY
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Any weather that would keep us cooped up all day would be weather in which its too dangerous to drive to the mall.
Not necessarily for most people, though you're probably speaking about you and yours in general.

There's a broad range of weather conditions between light blustery windy rain (crappy and uncomfortable to be outside), periods of heavy rain, light snow, heavy snow/blizzard conditions, tropical storm/hurricane warning and flat out state of emergency "stay inside" weather. Leaning towards the lighter side of the "crappy weather" scale above, which is likely most of the time for a lot of places, would put people in a position where they'd be "cooped up" inside because they can't do anything pleasant outside, however a drive to a local indoor shopping mall is perfectly reasonable thing and a nice way to "get out of the house and go out" without having to be outside.
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Old 04-04-2013, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Any weather that would keep us cooped up all day would be weather in which its too dangerous to drive to the mall.
Well, that's not the case everywhere. I grew up in the suburbs of Montreal, we have snow plows, I'm sure it's similar elsewhere. Winter is five months long and I never once had a snow day or let a blizzard stop me from driving somewhere, people can easily adapt with experience.

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Old 04-04-2013, 06:06 PM
 
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They're a 'public' space filled with people and activity in the dead of winter, when that sort of thing doesn't happen outside. A kid can go to the mall and be in an expansive environment without having to worry about the elements, instead of being cooped up all day. It's nice.
are you joking? malls are not public in any shape or form. they are 100% privately-owned commercial property . people go there to shop, period. that's what they were built and designed for by the developers. they are not hang out spots for high school students to walk around in circles all day long and loitering. there's nothing for anyone to do at the mall but shop. you would get kicked out by the security in most malls for doing anything else because they will think you are there to shoplift something. sorry but the mall is not your personal daycare center or babysitter.
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Monmouth County, NJ & Staten Island, NY
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are you joking? malls are not public in any shape or form. they are 100% privately-owned commercial property . people go there to shop, period. that's what they were built and designed for by the developers. they are not hang out spots for high school students to walk around in circles all day long and loitering. there's nothing for anyone to do at the mall but shop. you would get kicked out by the security in most malls for doing anything else because they will think you are there to shoplift something. sorry but the mall is not your personal daycare center or babysitter.
How does the fact that they're privately owned determine whether or not it's a "public space" as per what the poster with whom you quoted mentioned?

Public property != public space.

Pretty much any member of the general public can go into a shopping mall and do what they went there to do: shop. I've never personally been bothered in all my years for simply walking around a mall for a couple of hours, whether it was with friends or family. Granted, I've also never "acted out" or did anything which would warrant being escorted out by security or worse. And frankly, I like that malls do have a good security preference, as at least in the case of the local malls I go to, it keeps the place pretty orderly, keeps the idiots either at bay or removed, and in theory keeps crime down (I'd imagine if there weren't such a high security presence and police presence at my mall, shoplifting and petty crime might increase, or maybe not).

That being said, I also don't see how it's any different from a group of idiot teenagers being idiot teenagers and acting out of line in a "public property" place like a city street or walkable "Main Street" area...I've seen plenty of police taking care of problem people in any public place outside of shopping malls.
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