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Old 04-05-2013, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Uh..

Okay. There's four of them where I live. Three are in residential neighborhoods, the third about a mile outside of town. Two of them are a bit highfalutin, the other two are not. And I use that term generously as they are really not that prestigious. They're nothing like say the Olympic Club, which is in the middle of San Francisco. While membership is certainly exclusive (and expensive), I've been to events there a few times.
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Laurentia
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Golf courses are obviously great for those who play golf, and even if access is restrictive they create open space and attractive parkland which will have a positive impact on the view from neighboring homes and businesses, even the homes are part of a decayed slum. Even the poorest man will be better off with added beauty in his environment. I've also found that golf courses are a great place to measure snowfall . In response to Komeht, it's not as if people's homes are being demolished to convert urban areas into golf courses - golf courses are typically built in less-occupied areas (though most become more occupied over time ).
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:29 PM
 
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What the hell are you talking about country clubs lol. So now all the cities are clamoring to attract country clubs? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Country clubs are in very exclusive private communities located far away from the general population where the members do their business. They do nothing to affect real estate value or have anything to do with boosting local economies.
Obviously you don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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What the hell are you talking about country clubs lol. So now all the cities are clamoring to attract country clubs? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Country clubs are in very exclusive private communities located far away from the general population where the members do their business. They do nothing to affect real estate value or have anything to do with boosting local economies.
LOL indeed. Every sentence is incorrect.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:04 AM
 
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--Are golf courses the greatest waste of space ever invented?--

NO !................................and I'm a non-golfer
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Old 04-06-2013, 03:16 PM
 
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Just in regards to two things cisco brought up that actually are relevant:

1) Water. In general, recreation has been ignored as a concern in managing water supply. That's only recently begun to change. Typically the legitimate economic uses were industry, farming, household consumption, power generation, and flood control. The fishes (environment) are still largely dismissed although since the '80s have played an increasingly important role. Now we're at the point where recreation is being considered. Do golf courses use a lot of water? Yup. So what? So does growing alfalfa for cows. Which is a more productive use of the water? The problem with market-based approaches is that water isn't really market-based. It's a command economy full of special interests. Water districts are often senior rights holders and they set vastly divergent prices for different uses (farming, industry, ag) based on political whim.

2) Pesticide/fertilizer. Farming is also really toxic. We should stop growing food. It uses lots of water and chemicals. I'm entirely positive that agriculture is responsible for way more water qualities where I live and not golf courses.

These are not valid comparisons. Food and water are essential for life. Golf courses are not.

And you don't even need pesticides to grow food. People have been growing food for thousands of years without pesticides and still do today with organic farming and organic food products that are popular in many places.
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Old 04-06-2013, 03:28 PM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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These are not valid comparisons. Food and water are essential for life. Golf courses are not.

And you don't even need pesticides to grow food. People have been growing food for thousands of years without pesticides and still do today with organic farming and organic food products that are popular in many places.
Baseball diamonds and football fields also require pesticides (and are similarly not "essential" to life). It's a matter of balance, and given the fact that eco-friendly golf courses are seeing an exponential rise in growth, golf and environmental integrity are no longer mutually exclusive concepts.
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Old 04-06-2013, 04:18 PM
 
Location: California
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They should turn the golf courses over to the homeless so they can camp there and maybe put a few balls to relax
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:38 PM
 
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I think all golf courses should be turned into airports. Then people can have airplanes and use them like flying cars. They can commute from a c̶o̶u̶r̶s̶e̶ airport in the suburbs to one in the city in less than 10 min! It will also solve traffic problems.
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:20 PM
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I'm not a fan of golf courses, I'd prefer the natural land, but how can they be described as "eyesores"?. Does the OP even know what the word means? FHI it doesn't mean "personally offensive to my sense of decorum or urban planning philiosophy".
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