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Old 04-11-2013, 09:09 AM
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Here's some ideas concerning city schools. Here's one... teaching students programming:

Opening a Gateway for Girls to Enter the Computer Field - NYTimes.com

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Old 04-11-2013, 09:17 AM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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No one's said? This thread is full of people saying schools aren't part of urban planning. IF you had been following this thread, instead of darting in and out, you might find a few posts saying just that. On another thread here on urban planning, the OP, NOT me, posted a link from your neighborhood newspaper, the WaPo, discussing this very issue.

I can't follow every post here, sorry.

If theres a particular one you have in mind please link to it.

What I have seen is saying that deciding how to fix urban education is beyond the purview of urban planners. If its not, then what areas ARE beyond the purview of urban planners?

Clearly planning for locations of schools, transport access to them is part of urban planning.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:25 AM
 
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Here's some ideas concerning city schools. Here's one... teaching students programming:

Opening a Gateway for Girls to Enter the Computer Field - NYTimes.com

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Very cool. We have a high school here that is focused on IT and programming. I'm not sure if there's any involvement with local tech community (I hope so), but it would be an ideal feeder for internships and jobs.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:08 AM
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I can't follow every post here, sorry.

If theres a particular one you have in mind please link to it.

What I have seen is saying that deciding how to fix urban education is beyond the purview of urban planners. If its not, then what areas ARE beyond the purview of urban planners?

Clearly planning for locations of schools, transport access to them is part of urban planning.
This one.

Education and urban (dis)investment
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:50 AM
 
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the section quoted does not even reference schools. It says parks instead of speakeasies (which is abysmally ignorant, since the disctrict has lots of parks, many heavily used by families with small kids) There is a mention of housing - which is a real issue in DC. Right now its not that there are too many 1BR apts - its that the demand from singles is so high that anything 2BRs or bigger is typically rented by roommates. DINK couples usually live in 1BRs. Other than helping supply catch up to demand, I dont think theres much that can be done about that.
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Old 04-11-2013, 03:43 PM
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the section quoted does not even reference schools. It says parks instead of speakeasies (which is abysmally ignorant, since the disctrict has lots of parks, many heavily used by families with small kids) There is a mention of housing - which is a real issue in DC. Right now its not that there are too many 1BR apts - its that the demand from singles is so high that anything 2BRs or bigger is typically rented by roommates. DINK couples usually live in 1BRs. Other than helping supply catch up to demand, I dont think theres much that can be done about that.
Well, the title of that thread is "Education and urban (dis)investment" and if you would read a little more of the article (we're actually only supposed to quote three sentences) you will find a lot of information about concerns DC parents have about schools. The purpose of posting a link is to get the readers to open it and read it! To wit:

The District’s planning director, Harriet Tregoning, wants to keep families in Washington and is trying to determine if she can better coordinate with the school system to accommodate the rash of parents who are driving their children to schools outside their neighborhoods. This spring, parents submitted 7,299 applications for “out of boundary” schools — campuses other than the ones to which their children were assigned — a 10 percent increase over 2011. More than half of the applications were for preschool or pre-K slots, meaning they probably came from young parents like me.

(Wish I had read that far a while back; it would have saved a lot of angst! The PLANNING director, LOL!)

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Old 04-11-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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Well, the title of that thread is "Education and urban (dis)investment" and if you would read a little more of the article (we're actually only supposed to quote three sentences) you will find a lot of information about concerns DC parents have about schools. The purpose of posting a link is to get the readers to open it and read it! To wit:

The District’s planning director, Harriet Tregoning, wants to keep families in Washington and is trying to determine if she can better coordinate with the school system to accommodate the rash of parents who are driving their children to schools outside their neighborhoods. This spring, parents submitted 7,299 applications for “out of boundary” schools — campuses other than the ones to which their children were assigned — a 10 percent increase over 2011. More than half of the applications were for preschool or pre-K slots, meaning they probably came from young parents like me.

(Wish I had read that far a while back; it would have saved a lot of angst! The PLANNING director, LOL!)

" to accommodate the rash of parents who are driving their children to schools outside their neighborhoods."

the operative word BEING DRIVING.

IE theres a TRANSPORTATION problem created by DC's policy of out of boundary schools. Certainly on topic.
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:28 PM
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" to accommodate the rash of parents who are driving their children to schools outside their neighborhoods."

the operative word BEING DRIVING.

IE theres a TRANSPORTATION problem created by DC's policy of out of boundary schools. Certainly on topic.
Cherry picking! Making pie for dinner tonight? Some more from the link:

As Tregoning points out, sending your kids to a school outside your neighborhood is not easy, and it affects not only traffic but parent groups trying to support schools. Officials are even considering giving neighborhood families preference in charter school admissions. “We have a lot of kids that end up going to a different school every two years, and it’s hard to build those ties among parents,” Tregoning said.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:38 AM
 
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Cherry picking! Making pie for dinner tonight? Some more from the link:

As Tregoning points out, sending your kids to a school outside your neighborhood is not easy, and it affects not only traffic but parent groups trying to support schools. Officials are even considering giving neighborhood families preference in charter school admissions. “We have a lot of kids that end up going to a different school every two years, and it’s hard to build those ties among parents,” Tregoning said.

So Tregonning has a personal opinion about things in the purview of DCPS, which she has no authority over. Okay. Or maybe, since she is pro Neighborhood preference on charters (a VERY controversial issue in DC, BTW) for reasons relating to the transportation impact, she wants to marshal additional arguments. I mean Im pretty sure that is a decision for the city council, and Tregonning's main interest in terms of her actual job is the transport aspect - but I dont suppose the council members will shut her up (she's fairly popular) for treading on DCPS turf.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:56 PM
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The articles that Octa posted about this issue on the education thread used Denver as a shining example of neighborhood preference for charters. While that's a little over-hyped, it is true that they do so. It's also done at some charters in the Boulder Valley (Boulder and suburbs) School district. It's not controversial b/c no one ever tried to make it a controversy.
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