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Old 04-17-2013, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Monmouth County, NJ & Staten Island, NY
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A side effect of these bicycle share programs is annoying tourist riding these bicycles on the sidewalk.
I have a feeling that these said tourists will get to have a nice discussion with the NYPD very swiftly, if my observations over the years have shown anything. I'd be more concerned with those particular people taking to certain (hell, ALL) of the roads around here without any real experience of riding a bike in NYC, let alone any urban area. Watching cyclists get around the city is like watching an artist paint a masterpiece: it's a work of art how they manage to swerve around cars and taxis, narrowly avoid speeding traffic by inches, fly up narrow one way streets the right or wrong way in or out of the bike lanes (if there even is one) around double parked trucks and cars, etc. Should be interesting...
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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But hey, it is through the failure of well-meaning, socially-minded problem solvers that profitable solutions are derived.
Agreed.

And then there's this:

Mile High Pedicabs™ | Denver's oldest and largest pedicab leasing company with a full fleet of rickshaws, pedal cabs, bike taxis

My younger daughter arranged for one of these for my older daughter's bachelorette party. They pedaled from bar to bar in downtown Denver, then stayed at a hotel overnight. Theirs held about 8 people.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:40 PM
 
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The Denver mini rollout of Bike Share was actually for the 2008 Democratic Convention.
Some of the start up money came from the Convention funding.

Lots of speculation that a Bike Share program would not work in Denver and/or Boulder because of the logic that "why would people participate when most everyone owns a bike or two?" Both programs have found the existence of a great bike culture promotes the convenience of the bike share programs.
It's my understanding that this is the way it is in Minneapolis, too (another good bike city with a bike share program). And stolen bikes have not been a problem.
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:07 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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I have a feeling that these said tourists will get to have a nice discussion with the NYPD very swiftly, if my observations over the years have shown anything. I'd be more concerned with those particular people taking to certain (hell, ALL) of the roads around here without any real experience of riding a bike in NYC, let alone any urban area. Watching cyclists get around the city is like watching an artist paint a masterpiece: it's a work of art how they manage to swerve around cars and taxis, narrowly avoid speeding traffic by inches, fly up narrow one way streets the right or wrong way in or out of the bike lanes (if there even is one) around double parked trucks and cars, etc. Should be interesting...
As a tourist from the mid-west i would not feel comfortable riding a bicycle in Manhattan streets lol.

i would only limit myself to bicycle trails along the river or these nice bicycle lanes.
http://www.nycbikemaps.com/wp-conten...th-1122008.JPG
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:48 PM
 
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As a tourist from the mid-west i would not feel comfortable riding a bicycle in Manhattan streets lol.

i would only limit myself to bicycle trails along the river or these nice bicycle lanes.
http://www.nycbikemaps.com/wp-conten...th-1122008.JPG
Ha ha, that's the bike lane I take in to work when I ride my bike. That's a rather idealized photo of it. On a more typical morning, there will be at least one garbage truck, at least one police car, a group of pedestrians (apparently waiting for a bus; they're always milling around in the same spot), a section blocked off by road work, and a number of random pedestrians and taxis. Its counterpart going north on Eighth Avenue is not so bad for fixed obstacles, but is full of wrong-way bikers along with random police cars, taxis, and pedestrians.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:13 PM
 
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I think it's time for a serious re-evaluation.

IMO, Midtown/FiDi should be the most unpleasant place to drive in the USA.

Traffic calming should be ultra aggressive. It should be impossible to pass 20mph inside the Midtown CBD.

•Extend the sidewalks
•Reduce the number of lanes to 2.
•Narrow the lanes.
•Mid block stop lights.
•Multiple speed bumps and rumble strips (with cutouts for bicycles).
•Serpentines.
•Camera enforcement at every red light, and speed cameras at strategic locations (pedestrian heavy)
•Congestion pricing.
•Close Broadway to all traffic between Battery Park and W 59th St, pedestrian only.

It shouldn't be an issue to ride your bicycle among traffic there. Protected lanes don't work well in Midtown due to pedestrian density. Use the protected lanes in neighborhoods outside the CBDs.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:20 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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I think it's time for a serious re-evaluation.

IMO, Midtown/FiDi should be the most unpleasant place to drive in the USA.
If they're not already, where is the most unpleasant place to drive in the USA?
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:06 PM
 
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Bad news for thieves: Like DC and Boulder bikeshare, the NY bikes will also be getting GPS. Besides theft deterrence, the tracking data will be used by DOT to plan future expansion of stations and bike lanes.

Bike-Share GPS Data Will Help Plan NYC Bike Network | Streetsblog New York City

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Old 04-17-2013, 09:22 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Agreed.

And then there's this:

Mile High Pedicabs™ | Denver's oldest and largest pedicab leasing company with a full fleet of rickshaws, pedal cabs, bike taxis

My younger daughter arranged for one of these for my older daughter's bachelorette party. They pedaled from bar to bar in downtown Denver, then stayed at a hotel overnight. Theirs held about 8 people.
Thought about starting a pedicab biz here. Still might.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:45 PM
 
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If they're not already, where is the most unpleasant place to drive in the USA?
42nd Street has to be high on the list. So does Canal. In general I think Philly is worse to drive in than Manhattan, however; in Manhattan there's more often an alternate route.

But when the goal is explicitly to make driving more unpleasant, those in favor of "traffic calming" have pretty much tipped their hand. It's all about hatred of the automobile, nothing more.

Closing Manhattan roads to car traffic would probably make them even worse for bicycle riders; it's much easier riding with car traffic than through pedestrian traffic.
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