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Old 04-26-2013, 05:54 AM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
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No on both counts. Though the murder rate has fallen since, Minneapolis was nicknamed "Murderapolis" in the 90s by the NYT. They had I believe 90 murders in one year. And this is just in city limits (under 400,000 people). Even now, they have more than 10 murders per 100,000 some years.
The 90s were a long time ago, and they were especially a tough time for cities. Also, those murder numbers really don't rank it among the most dangerous cities. There were 353 here in 1993, pop 650,000. DC, smaller, had 474 in 1990.
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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The 90s were a long time ago, and they were especially a tough time for cities. Also, those murder numbers really don't rank it among the most dangerous cities. There were 353 here in 1993, pop 650,000. DC, smaller, had 474 in 1990.
DC's murder rate in 1990 was astoundingly horrible. At a murder rate of 80 per 100k, it was probably averaging worse than the worst neighborhoods of New York City (then). Some DC neighborhoods east of the river must have been far worse. Bad schools would have been the least of its worries. Murder Capital:

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I read an interesting news story of a DC resident who had been imprisoned in the early or mid 90s and just got released to his old neighborhood. Dunno where the link is.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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I wonder how far down that list Boston would fall after these Bombings we had here. Also surprised that the Denver numbers include the suburbs, with Columbine and Aurora being in that metro area.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:06 PM
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All the cities include the metros. Columbine was 14 years ago. Aurora was horrific, but 12 deaths (I think). Fewer than on the mean streets of some cities in a weekend.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:09 PM
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No on both counts. Though the murder rate has fallen since, Minneapolis was nicknamed "Murderapolis" in the 90s by the NYT. They had I believe 90 murders in one year. And this is just in city limits (under 400,000 people). Even now, they have more than 10 murders per 100,000 some years.

Denver has fairly high per capita crime rates itself. It's CD crime index is well above the U.S. average last I checked.
Murderapolis, that's a new one on me. I've heard of "Killadelphia" and several others that escape me at the moment.

I didn't look at their methodology for this poll.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:57 PM
 
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The 90s were a long time ago, and they were especially a tough time for cities. Also, those murder numbers really don't rank it among the most dangerous cities. There were 353 here in 1993, pop 650,000. DC, smaller, had 474 in 1990.
I never said they did. They don't exactly rank them amongst the safest cities either.
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Denver has fairly high per capita crime rates itself. It's CD crime index is well above the U.S. average last I checked.
And Killorado in general
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:45 PM
 
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All the cities include the metros. Columbine was 14 years ago. Aurora was horrific, but 12 deaths (I think). Fewer than on the mean streets of some cities in a weekend.
Yes but Columbine, Aurora, Newtown and Boston strike a fear in people that they don't soon forget. Street violence is also usually targeted at specific individuals, not a mass of innocent bystanders. Sure some people may catch a stray bullet from a drug gang - but most inner city murders are aimed at a specific victim.
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:52 PM
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Yes but Columbine, Aurora, Newtown and Boston strike a fear in people that they don't soon forget. Street violence is also usually targeted at specific individuals, not a mass of innocent bystanders. Sure some people may catch a stray bullet from a drug gang - but most inner city murders are aimed at a specific victim.
This was a Gallup poll. I believe it was taken before "Boston". The date of the first post is 4/15. Trust me, I live in Colorado and we are not cowering in fear b/c of Aurora and/or Columbine. They freaked everyone out at the time, but really, have nothing to do with a fear of walking around at night. Columbine happened in a high school and Aurora happened in a movie theater. My daughter lived a few blocks from James Holmes, and was afraid to stay at her apt. for a few days, but I told her she was safer with him in jail than before we knew anything about him. Neither were acts of political terrorism, something that is scarier (IMO).
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