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Old 04-25-2013, 01:43 AM
 
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I think the number one thing citys need to do is rebuild themselves around the automobile. They should make it easy for people live, work and travel to the city with their car as the primary source of transport. Many buildings should be demolished to make room for parking. If there is room for a bike lane there is room for another lane of traffic, so bike lanes need to go since biking has no room as transportation is a first world nation anyway.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Too many guesses!!! OP is a car salesman! OP works in an automobile manufacturing plant? OP is a police officer and hasn't been giving out enough traffic fines lately? OP is a personal injury attorney? OP is a chiropractor who deals with car accident victims? OP is a tow truck operator? OP is in the auto repair business? OP is in the auto body repair business? Op designs cars for Ford or GM?

Civilization is increasingly returning to our cities and they will survive quite comfortably with fewer and fewer cars!
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Or sarcasm?

On its face, it's no more ridiculous than the anti-car diatribes you see from people who are convinced that cities are built for cars and not for people. When you get above a certain density, it's really not efficient to have everyone driving everywhere. Especially with older cities that were built before the car, it can be exceedingly difficult and probably impossible to make them work well in a cars-only model. Imagine Manhattan if everyone tried to get around by car. Yikes!

Most cities use cars as cash cows. The fees they charge for parking (taxes), tolls, congestion charges, etc, make driving less attractive while the fees collected are used to subsidize transportation making it more attractive. That works pretty well for relatively healthy cities where there's demand for businesses that want to be there. For someplace that has succeeded in driving off most of its residents and businesses to the suburbs, catering more to drives would make sense. If you're trying to attract employers back from the suburbs (or new ones from opening there) who have workforces that live in suburbs with little transit, being accessible by car would be important. If you're trying to attract residents who work in the suburbs back to the cities, same thing.

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Old 04-25-2013, 05:53 AM
 
Location: NYC
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I think the number one thing citys need to do is rebuild themselves around the automobile. They should make it easy for people live, work and travel to the city with their car as the primary source of transport. Many buildings should be demolished to make room for parking. If there is room for a bike lane there is room for another lane of traffic, so bike lanes need to go since biking has no room as transportation is a first world nation anyway.
I think this is a troll post.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:59 AM
 
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Too many guesses!!! OP is a car salesman! OP works in an automobile manufacturing plant? OP is a police officer and hasn't been giving out enough traffic fines lately? OP is a personal injury attorney? OP is a chiropractor who deals with car accident victims? OP is a tow truck operator? OP is in the auto repair business? OP is in the auto body repair business? Op designs cars for Ford or GM?

Civilization is increasingly returning to our cities and they will survive quite comfortably with fewer and fewer cars!
I believe cities that pursue fewer cars, in most cases will just end up with fewer people and have a disproportional large poor population per capita that will flock to a place with good public transport and sap the cities resources. People will find it hard to travel to the city from the suburbs making it less desirable to do business there causing the city even more harm.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I believe cities that pursue fewer cars, in most cases will just end up with fewer people and have a disproportional large poor population per capita that will flock to a place with good public transport and sap the cities resources. People will find it hard to travel to the city from the suburbs making it less desirable to do business there causing the city even more harm.
And your experience living in cities is?
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:43 AM
 
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Firdt as to why mnay moved to cities i the first palce.the inductrial revoltion and what it broght in jobs .Thatwas a funstion of energy and tr4anport to make it possible. once WWII had ended it started to change to where one ould live outside the city and work and now we see industry movign outside because that ius where the workers they want are and its cheaper.e built waht was nweeded then and now isn't bascially.Some will always prefer c urban life and other will not as they can afford it. urban life is now quite expensive in fact at levels most want to live in those urban areas.We see much the same thing where living i huge urban concentrations is more about workig and what it brings verus rual and what it lacks.With huge boomers retring for nest deacde or a so urban fling will become a worse problem because they are not tied to job market anymore.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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To answer the thread title question-improve their schools! Now granted, I am not an educator and I don't know exactly how one does this, but the cities will never get people with kids to stay there, despite all sorts of frou-frou shops, light rail, theater, bars (always bars), music, etc, if the schools suck.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Too many guesses!!! OP is a car salesman! OP works in an automobile manufacturing plant? OP is a police officer and hasn't been giving out enough traffic fines lately? OP is a personal injury attorney? OP is a chiropractor who deals with car accident victims? OP is a tow truck operator? OP is in the auto repair business? OP is in the auto body repair business? Op designs cars for Ford or GM?

Civilization is increasingly returning to our cities and they will survive quite comfortably with fewer and fewer cars!
Joel Kotkin?
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:21 PM
 
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And your experience living in cities is?


I never lived in one but i due drive the the city of Bangor ME often.
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