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Old 04-25-2013, 10:13 AM
 
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With more people no longer working in manufacturing jobs and even traditional office jobs the need for people to live in densely packed business centers are no longer valid. It cost much more to build up then out and most Cities have huge financial liabilities. I think development should focus on sprawl outside and around the old cities in separate towns that have no tax liability to the cities themselves.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:31 AM
 
Location: NYC
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What would be the point for there to be a central zone in which no people live? Stupidity.

That's my only bite on this troll post.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:27 AM
 
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With more people no longer working in manufacturing jobs and even traditional office jobs the need for people to live in densely packed business centers are no longer valid. It cost much more to build up then out and most Cities have huge financial liabilities. I think development should focus on sprawl outside and around the old cities in separate towns that have no tax liability to the cities themselves.
This pretty accurately describes the contemporary American metropolitan reality.
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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What would be the point for there to be a central zone in which no people live? Stupidity.
It would take time for the central city to depopulate and the city would still have a limited use, such as a central point for government buildings.
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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So...basically every city becomes Detroit? I'm pretty sure every city is trying to avoid that.
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:31 PM
 
Location: The City
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http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/res...1115_birch.pdf

The Social Costs of Anti-Density Zoning | Brookings Institution
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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99% of the country is already covered in sprawl. What more do you want? There's no more room left. But you could always move to Antarctica, where you can pursue your dreams of covering every square inch of the planet in freeways and Walmart parking lots. Don't worry about the freezing weather it'll warm up enough soon enough for you to do just that.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:33 PM
 
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So...basically every city becomes Detroit? I'm pretty sure every city is trying to avoid that.
We should do what is best for people, not whats best for the "city"
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:36 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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With more people no longer working in manufacturing jobs and even traditional office jobs the need for people to live in densely packed business centers are no longer valid. It cost much more to build up then out and most Cities have huge financial liabilities. I think development should focus on sprawl outside and around the old cities in separate towns that have no tax liability to the cities themselves.

you may think that, but the market, which shows high demand for people to live close in in many metros, and continued high demand by firms for close in office space (and when its outside traditional central cities, is often still quite concentrated in new edge cities) suggests otherwise.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:38 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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We should do what is best for people, not whats best for the "city"

You seem specifically concerned with moving people where they will have no tax liability to cities. That means remaining costs must be borne either by the remaining tax payers, or the cities must default - depriving bond holders (who are also people) of their money.

If OTOH, you simply dont like bondholders, there are probably other ways to address that that do not involve forcing people to move across a line just to hurt the bondholders.
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