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Old 12-21-2013, 11:13 AM
 
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Seattle becoming conformist? That's sad...

Where I live, what was once the budding Wynwood and Design District arts district is starting to get overrun with luxury brand-name retailers--everywhere seems to want to be another high end mall (or at least have it's own Starbucks and Whole Foods) instead of having it's own unique local vibe.

Are cities really so desperate for developers' money that they totally disregard how the development will affect the place's character?
Yeah, I feel the city of Seattle is not the same compared to 3 years ago and in 1990s for plenty of reasons. =/

I used to love Seattle, and thought I would live over there long term or permanently. Around 3 years later in the future, and living there again, I don’t really have the same opinion anymore. I continue to like the city of Seattle, just not quite as much compared to before, and I don’t view myself living there for more than 2 more years.

However, I definitely enjoy the city of Seattle enough to make the most of this move for the next 2 years before moving to another region of the world.

What happened to some of Capitol Hill neighborhood of Seattle is devastating and is exactly what you said in this question: “Are cities really so desperate for developers' money that they totally disregard how the development will affect the place's character?”

At the same time, there is enough places of Seattle preserving unique character and entertainment in neighborhoods all over the city of Seattle Pacific Northwest.

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Old 12-21-2013, 11:15 AM
 
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People are becoming much more supportive of density in general.

Seattle is definitely a poster child of this. The city is undergoing the most dramatic change in any city within the US. More dense, lots of newer residential towers, cleaner, sleeker, shinier. But then as previous posters have said, it isn't the same city anymore. The grunge/punk culture is completely dead, it's much snobbier, more yuppies, much less affordable, laughably horrendous traffic, much more of a rat race, more corporate, more serious, and generally a more frustrated population as it evolves from a laid back hip city to a city of transplants all in search of wealth and money. Still a great city, but no longer grunge or bohemian anymore.
What happened to some negative changes of Seattle is not really because of some increased density levels in some areas of this city.

A place that is less progressive, less intellectual, more dull, more conformist in a horrible way, and not the same character of quality of life doesnít equal grunge/punk/bohemian and doesnít always have relevance to those stereotypical traits. The city of Seattle actually feels less yuppie compared to 3 years ago and another negative change over there.
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Old 12-21-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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Well, there's always Portland for that.
Portland Oregon does seem more progressive, countercultural, intellectual, more pleasant, and interesting people scene compared to Seattle in recent times and right now based on my impression of Portland Oregon.

The weather is actually better in Portland, with some noticeable sunnier weather, and more warm/hot summer weather compared to Seattle, even if subtle most of the time, and an identical annual climate. The rent is much more affordable/lower cost of living. However, Portland Oregon is not quite as urban or dense compared to Seattle.

Itís probably time for you to change your username. Your username is based on Capitol Hill neighborhood of Seattle, and this neighborhood of Seattle is not the same anymore, with some devastating negative changes.
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Old 12-21-2013, 12:39 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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It’s probably time for you to change your username. Your username is based on Capitol Hill neighborhood of Seattle, and this neighborhood of Seattle is not the same anymore, with some devastating negative changes.
I've thought about that and I know Seattle has changed a lot since I left there in 2005. Spending my 20's on Capital Hill was priceless, wouldn't have changed it for anything. I still have an affection for the city, but the idea of living there now is just not something I relate to anymore. How do I go about changing the name?

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Old 12-21-2013, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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What happened to some negative changes of Seattle is not really because of some increased density levels in some areas of this city.

A place that is less progressive, less intellectual, more dull, more conformist in a horrible way, and not the same character of quality of life doesnít equal grunge/punk/bohemian and doesnít always have relevance to those stereotypical traits. The city of Seattle actually feels less yuppie compared to 3 years ago and another negative change over there.
While it's changed, I think you are all over exaggerating. Seattle is still awesome. The "cultural changes" involve more professionals, less drugs, and less crime. I mean, what exactly are you all missing dearly about the days of yore? Because it sounds like none of you know what you're talking about.
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Because it sounds like none of you know what you're talking about.
Hold up. Come again?
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Old 12-21-2013, 04:11 PM
 
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I've thought about that and I know Seattle has changed a lot since I left there in 2005. Spending my 20's on Capital Hill was priceless, wouldn't have changed it for anything. I still have an affection for the city, but the idea of living there now is just not something I relate to anymore. How do I go about changing the name?
Well, I am in my Earliest 20s right now and I am usually am in Capitol Hill the majority of the time or around 20% to 30% of my time in Seattle.

Around 3 years+ ago, this neighborhood used to be one of my favorite neighborhoods in the world, and not anymore, it is now slightly above average.

There is no excuse for what happened to BandOEspresso Cafe Bar Restaurant, and Bauhaus Cafe Bar in Seattle, and some of my favorite independent stores in the same neighborhood. People Scene is not the same, another negative change over there, and too many tacky, hideous condo building projects in this neighborhood.

Yeah, it’s easy to change a username. You contact one of the senior moderators, tell them the new username you want, and they change this on the same account. I plan to get a new username soon such as ThePastPresentAndFuture5000, or something else.




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While it's changed, I think you are all over exaggerating. Seattle is still awesome. The "cultural changes" involve more professionals, less drugs, and less crime. I mean, what exactly are you all missing dearly about the days of yore? Because it sounds like none of you know what you're talking about.
You just can’t handle the truth, and every poster said honest, and accurate observations about the city of Seattle. You are in denial, and some other posters, including me, know Seattle more than you. There isn't more professionals compared to 3 to 5 years ago over there.

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Hold up. Come again?
I can’t believe the previous poster said such false accusations to all of the number 1 posters in Urban Planning forum.

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Old 12-21-2013, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Well, as long as fast food restaurants are opening up in the cities, it's hard to argue that they're doing well. /sarcasm

Kidding aside, it has been and hasn't been. The major problems that drove America out of cities largely aren't solved yet. Crime is still higher in cities than suburbs, and the schools still generally are bad. There's a lot of progress especially on the crime front in many cities, but the real challenge is keeping gays and DINKs/yuppies around once they have kids. That really hasn't happened all that much.
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Old 12-27-2013, 08:13 PM
 
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Well, as long as fast food restaurants are opening up in the cities, it's hard to argue that they're doing well. /sarcasm

Kidding aside, it has been and hasn't been. The major problems that drove America out of cities largely aren't solved yet. Crime is still higher in cities than suburbs, and the schools still generally are bad. There's a lot of progress especially on the crime front in many cities, but the real challenge is keeping gays and DINKs/yuppies around once they have kids. That really hasn't happened all that much.
Yeah, there is a mixed paradox happening about whether it is a good time for cities future or not. It feels too much too much of a generalization to classify in current times, and really depends on region of the world.

There is economic wealth, this just doesn’t usually get invested in proper development in architecture urban planning projects in places such as USA in recent times, a negative direction towards too much bland looking new architecture, and not enough historic or unique modern architecture. Bureaucracy systems is getting in the way of quick progress.

There is probably more successful, and popular independent stores/businesses, more well organized cultural events, and less negative stigmatized stereotypes about heavily populated cities. More school education, especially in colleges/universities, high schools in major cities, more desirable neighborhoods, more families staying in cities, and lower crime rate.



How is the city you live in right now: Sacramento? Is this city becoming more urban, less suburban, and more of a destination in the future? I noticed very mixed divided opinions of Sacramento. Outside of urban planning, the weather is amazing, and very pleasant right in Sacramento, especially in hot, not too hot, low humidity/dew points, breezy, and extremely sunny summers, the sunniest place in the world in May to September, more than 400 sunshine hours in each month, up to 440 average sunshine hours in July with an average high/low of 92/58, and a Mediterranean annual climate with a modest change of 4 seasons. There is close proximity to Sierra Nevada mountain range national parks, 2 hours away from San Francisco, some safe/pretty nice neighborhoods, some culture, very affordable cost of living, and outside of some stereotypes in California.
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Old 12-27-2013, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Yes, there's a renaissance of cities in America...there never really was a decline in the rest of the world. Now over half of us live in cities (worldwide) cities are more important than ever.
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