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Old 06-05-2013, 11:03 PM
 
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I doubt too many churches built in the last 3 or 4 decades ever share a block with other buildings. They're always silo buildings and almost always set behind acres and acres of parking. There must be exceptions here and there but they're extraordinarily rare.

It's hard to image how people can pastor when the buildings aren't even part of the neighborhood, let alone being part of the community.






As a contrast - in the past - many churces were not only fully embedded in their communities, they were part of the actual fabric of the city.





It's curious because Jesus was definitely an urbanist - so much of the New Testament could never happen in a suburb. Why have modern evangelicals turned their back on urbanism - especially when Matthew 7:13 tells us that the road to heaven is narrow and the road to hell is wide.
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Old 06-06-2013, 12:09 AM
 
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Because religious dogma and urbanist dogma aren't the same.

UU in Seattle is just one of probably hundreds of new church buildings that share the same block with other buildings. And there's plenty of people, that unlike some urbanists, can actually cross the moat of brimstone that is a parking lot. Anyway, given where the stripmall churches are going up, it's completely irrelevant what the urbanists who can't cross a parking lot think about them not being part of the neighborhood. Those kinds of people don't live in the neighborhoods that stripmall churches are built in to begin with.
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Old 06-06-2013, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Denver
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My old church, St. Paul Catholic Church, was recently rebuilt and was always part of the urban fabric of it's neighborhood and plays a role in the community. Plenty of people walk to church.

Rendering of the church sans it's surroundings.

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Old 06-06-2013, 12:38 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Wouldn't it be because most growth is happening in the suburbs and so the churches being built are being built there and so are naturally in a suburban built form? The cities are usually already pretty well stocked with historic churches and even if there's some growth its tempered by lower church attendance among the urbanites. On the occasions that new churches are built in urban areas, it seems to me that they are built in a way that fits into the neighbourhood (because why wouldn't they in an area where other enterprises don't see giant parking lots as viable?) Here's a newish church in Vancouver's skid row, and it of course was built with zero lot lines and shared walls with the neighbouring buildings just like every other building in the area.


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Old 06-06-2013, 05:46 AM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
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A church wanted to set up shop in an unused light industrial building in the neighborhood. 10 parking spaces for 200 congregants. We told them to take a hike.

Not to cross post ... But I've seen a few Pizza Hut churches. Churches also seem to be the last tenants of dead malls. In baltimore, many movie theaters were converted to churches.

Church is big business here though. They are more than willing to send the church van to collect those filling the collection baskets!!
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:35 AM
 
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My old church, St. Paul Catholic Church, was recently rebuilt and was always part of the urban fabric of it's neighborhood and plays a role in the community. Plenty of people walk to church.

Rendering of the church sans it's surroundings.

That looks exactly like every church in every suburb in America. A single building set way bak from the street, behind a large parking lot. A ministry to cars.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:52 AM
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A ministry to cars.
So is a church in an urban neighborhood without its own parking a ministry to pedestrians?
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:54 AM
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I have not seen a ministry to pedestrians, but I have seen one for bicycles. The bike of church of Eugene, OR.



Bless you and the bicycle you ride on.
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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I have not seen a ministry to pedestrians, but I have seen one for bicycles. The bike of church of Eugene, OR.



Bless you and the bicycle you ride on.
Oh no, don't let the anti-Citibike zealots get a hold of this.
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:25 AM
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I have not seen a ministry to pedestrians, but I have seen one for bicycles. The bike of church of Eugene, OR.



Bless you and the bicycle you ride on.
My church in Boulder, CO recently did a blessing of the bicycles, probably b/c the pastor's husband is a big-time cyclist and works in a bike shop.
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