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Old 06-07-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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What you're not getting is that people on this thread are telling you that your assumptions are way off base, but you keep repeating the same old song ...


Except that no one here is afraid of public transit. FAIL.


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They are not. Personally I know hundreds of people that feel this way. People are. This thread is about them.

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Old 06-07-2013, 02:43 PM
 
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What people don't realize is driving is more expensive then public transit but it is subsidized so drivers don't shoulder the cost.
 
Old 06-07-2013, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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What people don't realize is driving is more expensive then public transit but it is subsidized so drivers don't shoulder the cost.
Honey, public transit is subsidized as well. The rider doesn't pay anywhere near the full cost.
 
Old 06-07-2013, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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They are not. Personally I know hundreds of people that feel this way. People are. This thread is about them.

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Name ten of the hundreds of people here that are afraid of public transit.
 
Old 06-07-2013, 02:58 PM
 
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What people don't realize is driving is more expensive then public transit but it is subsidized so drivers don't shoulder the cost.
You gotta be yanking our chains. As if public transit isn't subsidized? Do we live in the same universe?
 
Old 06-07-2013, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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But there's generally no reason to cut off your nose to spite your face. Even if public transit is in most cases just going to be inferior to driving, that doesn't mean you out of spite penalize driving. Now, if there's some reason for it such as congestion, that would make sense. Where I live, where "rush hour" means the freeway runs at 60 instead of 75-80... well, that'd just be stupid.
As long as there's adequate public transit access that restricting downtown parking doesn't cause an actual downturn in the CBD, it's sort of a win-win, as you get to cut whatever city subsidies are being provided to parking, and get better utilization of the mass transit system.

That said, it's going to eventually reach homeostasis, as a bit less people drive downtown, traffic clears up, and parking availability rises again.

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Name ten of the hundreds of people here that are afraid of public transit.
I was actually scared to go on a public bus when I was 18 and ended up (finally) in an area which had them. Not for any racial or class reason - just because I had never been on one in my life and didn't know what to do.
 
Old 06-07-2013, 03:01 PM
 
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Honey, public transit is subsidized as well. The rider doesn't pay anywhere near the full cost.

Darling they usually pay something. So it is less subsidized than roads. Also it is subsidized MUCH less. Roads are everywhere even empty rural areas.

If someone wants to make an argument against subsidies and handouts they should be against roads and cars 1000x times before making that argument against public transit.
 
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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As long as there's adequate public transit access that restricting downtown parking doesn't cause an actual downturn in the CBD, it's sort of a win-win, as you get to cut whatever city subsidies are being provided to parking, and get better utilization of the mass transit system.
When you mean parking subsidies, do you mean effects from parking minimums or actual government subsidies? My city definitely subsidies parking near the center but I don't think larger ones generally do.
 
Old 06-07-2013, 03:03 PM
 
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You gotta be yanking our chains. As if public transit isn't subsidized? Do we live in the same universe?
It is and I never said it wasn't. It is just subsidized much less than roads. You are living in fantasy land if you think roads and car use isn't subsidized.
 
Old 06-07-2013, 03:04 PM
 
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Darling they usually pay something. So it is less subsidized than roads. Also it is subsidized MUCH less. Roads are everywhere even empty rural areas.

If someone wants to make an argument against subsidies and handouts they should be against roads and cars 1000x times before making that argument against public transit.
What do you think people drive buses on? Rainbows?
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