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Old 06-27-2013, 06:01 AM
 
Location: NYC
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You'd be suprised how many people bicycling around here in December. I would never do it, its nice that they're saving the environment and all but I find it crazy!
you should thank them for reducing congestion and making your trip shorter.

Also, your chubby chaser remark was rather crass.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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you should thank them for reducing congestion and making your trip shorter.

Also, your chubby chaser remark was rather crass.
I just find it strange how so many people on C-D have an obsession with obese people.
And you can't prove car centric cities = more obese considering you can still exercise and find healthy food.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Centre Wellington, ON
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It snows quite a bit in the Netherlands too but it doesn't seem to stop them from biking in the middle of winter. It might seem extreme to those of us who are homebodies and spend all our time indoors and behind the wheel but the Dutch are accustomed to it because they are outdoors so much. Their bodies are probably a lot better physically conditioned and hardier than ours for the most part.




Bicycle Rush Hour Snow - Utrecht, Netherlands - YouTube
So 0C and an inch of wet snow... is that as bad as it gets? Because that's nothing like what you might have to deal with in Minneapolis (or here) in the middle of winter.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:48 PM
 
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So 0C and an inch of wet snow... is that as bad as it gets? Because that's nothing like what you might have to deal with in Minneapolis (or here) in the middle of winter.

Weather isn't an indicator of anything when it comes to bicycling. One of the coldest cities in America if not the coldest, Minneapolis was named the #1 city for cycling by Bicycling magazine in 2010. And yet Southern California one of the sunniest regions is also one of the worst places for cycling. But it is the car capital of the world and extremely autocentric, despite having mild sunny weather year round. You would expect Socal to be very bike-friendly but it isn't. The cycling infrastructure is very poor or nonexistent and everyone drives.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:51 PM
 
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Weather isn't an indicator of anything when it comes to bicycling. One of the coldest cities in America if not the coldest, Minneapolis was named the #1 city for cycling by Bicycling magazine in 2010. And yet Southern California one of the sunniest regions is also one of the worst places for cycling. But it is the car capital of the world and extremely autocentric, despite having mild sunny weather year round. You would expect Socal to be very bike-friendly but it isn't. The cycling infrastructure is very poor or nonexistent and everyone drives.
Both factors play some importance. Minneapolis may have great biking infrastructure, but how many people will be using that infrastructure in the middle of January? Similarly LA may not have that many bike lanes/trails, but your still going to see some people riding year round. The extent of biking popularity depends on weather, infrastructure, travel distances, and convenience of other transportation forms.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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Florida is another state where walking and biking seem to be very minimal despite the excellent year-round weather. Funny how that works. The best pro-walking and biking areas tend to be in colder climes with a lot of rainy, foggy or freezing weather (NYC, DC, Chicago, Denver, Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland) while sunnier places like FL and California tend to be the least walkable and least bikeable.
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:02 AM
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More car friendly, Amsterdam is beautiful but it seems like such a hassle to own a car there.
But that's just the city (or really part of it). It's not typical of the entire country.

And the tradeoff is even in many American cities are mostly auto oriented, where living without a car would be a hassle more so than a place like Amsterdam.
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:07 AM
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As to the problem of the OP, perhaps a bicycle registration and charge of parking bicycles (higher past the first) would help? That'd be annoying to non-regulars, but maybe that could apply to the most of the popular lots.
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:26 PM
 
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Cycling in the Netherlands isn't limited to Amsterdam, as the Utrecht video shows. It's the primary mode of transportation in nearly all Dutch cities. The secondary modes are walking and public transit.
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Laurentia
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Who will save us from those who will save us from ourselves?
Indeed. It seems that some people just hate transportation of any kind. If there's a problem with abandoned bikes perhaps they could open a lost-and-found for bicycles . If there's not enough places for the bicycles to park, perhaps they could create underground bicycle garages? I'm not sure if that would work, but it does present itself as an option. If there's a lack of mass transit to certain parts of the city perhaps they could be expanded.
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