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Old 09-07-2013, 10:13 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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I'm initiating a thread to start discussion about underserved urban areas that lack mass transit that seem like obvious destinations for mass transit links.

Miami - no Metrorail connections to Miami Beach. The primary and most popular destination in the whole metro area with the most pedestrian activity and a high level of urban density. They just expanded Metrorail to Miami Airport, but no solid plans, not even much discussion about extending it to the beach. Seems odd.

Phoenix - no light rail connections to Scottsdale; one of the most active pedestrian, shopping, dining, and nightlife destinations in metro Phoenix.

San Diego - This city has a fairly extensive light rail trolley system and though San Diego has a lot of notoriety for its beaches, there are no light rail trolley connections to any of the beach communities.

Toronto and Montreal - no rail connections to the airports

Perhaps some of these areas listed are due to communities not wanting public transit service (Scottsdale in particular) even though they are vital destinations and integral links as part of their respective metro areas and some have a desire for such service (Will there ever be a north-south light rail path excluding downtown?).

Discuss some other areas that are underserved.

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Old 09-08-2013, 03:48 PM
 
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Chicago: no north-south route west of I-355. Not even bus service. No transfer station at DeVal or Mayfair. No transfer station between Heritage corridor and orange line to Midway Airport.
New York what? NYC lacks transit? Yes, no rapid transit to LGA. May be one of the worst airports in the country, but still pretty busy.
New Jersey No route to Manhattan for many lines, transfer at Hoboken required. Marginal service to Meadowlands (or whatever they call it these days).
Philadelphia not enough service to northern suburbs, especially going east to west
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Denver
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We could do this for so many cities in America.

New Orleans: Decided to build a streetcar line on Loyola in time for the Superbowl, yet couldn't get it extended down N. Rampart, a border of the Vieux Carre. Although there are plans, it should have been done earlier. Plans exist for another extension down St. Claude Avenue, putting much needed investment in downtown neighborhoods.
The Carrollton line needs to be extended to near the end of the Canal St line in order to create a loop and make it easier for Uptown residents to get to the CBD without using the slower St. Charles streetcar.
Elysian Fields has plans for a streetcar line, although I'd like to see that expanded and eventually extend it along Lakeshore and come on back down Canal Blvd.
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Old 09-08-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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Miami - no Metrorail connections to Miami Beach. The primary and most popular destination in the whole metro area with the most pedestrian activity and a high level of urban density. They just expanded Metrorail to Miami Airport, but no solid plans, not even much discussion about extending it to the beach. Seems odd.
Actually, if you look at a density map, you'll see that the ideal route for the MetroRail would be to run east-west down SW 8th Street and then continue to South Beach. (So it should basically be tilted 90 degrees on a map).
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
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Boston- No connection between blue line and red line though the blue line ends only a few blocks from the red line
- no crosstown rail to link secondary business centers- Kendall Square/MIT, Longwood Medical Center, etc.
- no rapid transit for Chelsea and Everett which are relatively high density and need transit
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:38 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Ga
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Atlanta:
- Needs the North-East line to continue to Norcross, Duluth, Suwanee, Buford, and Gainesville.
- Needs the North line to continue to Roswell, Alpharetta, and maybe Cumming.
- Needs to add a North-West line to extend from Arts Center Station up all the way to Kennesaw.
- Needs to extend East line to Stone Crest Mall and West to Six Flags/Austell.
- Needs to add a South-East line from Airport Station down to Jonesboro.
- Needs to add a South-West line to Fairburn.
- Need multiple streetcar/light rail links around downtown, midtown, and buckhead and near certain other major stations (EX: College Park to Campcreek Pkwy/285, Arts Center along Peachtree to Lenox Mall, etc)
- More than anything need to construct the planned MultiModal Transfer Center in downtown.
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Old 09-09-2013, 02:28 AM
 
Location: Tijuana Exurbs
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San Diego - This city has a fairly extensive light rail trolley system and though San Diego has a lot of notoriety for its beaches, there are no light rail trolley connections to any of the beach communities.
Besides the beaches, the trolley misses the airport terminal by a mile and a half.

The trolley also should have a line which runs near the most densely populated portion of the city - the east/west corridor between University Avenue and El Cajon Boulevard.
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:37 AM
 
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There are 29 airports in this country that each carry 1% or more of the nation's traffic. Ideally each of these airports should have a rail link to downtown or to another transit center. Roughly half of them do not have a rail link.

DEN Denver
CLT Charlotte
LAS Las Vegas
PHX Phoenix
IAH Houston
MCO Orlando
SEA Seattle
DTW Detroit
LGA New York
IAD Dulles
SLC Salt Lake City
HNL Honolulu
SAN San Diego
TPA Tampa
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Old 09-09-2013, 06:42 AM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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There are 29 airports in this country that each carry 1% or more of the nation's traffic. Ideally each of these airports should have a rail link to downtown or to another transit center. Roughly half of them do not have a rail link.
DEN Denver - FasTracks East line commuter rail to DIA on the way in 2016
CLT Charlotte - None
LAS Las Vegas - None

PHX Phoenix - has a light rail station with sky train connection to airport terminal
IAH Houston - None
MCO Orlando - None

SEA Seattle - light rail connection at terminal
DTW Detroit - None
LGA New York - None

IAD Dulles - Metros new silver line on the way in 2018
SLC Salt Lake City - light rail connection at terminal
HNL Honolulu - Rail transit corridor project to open in 2017
SAN San Diego - None
TPA Tampa - None
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Chicago: no north-south route west of I-355. Not even bus service. No transfer station at DeVal or Mayfair. No transfer station between Heritage corridor and orange line to Midway Airport.
New York what? NYC lacks transit? Yes, no rapid transit to LGA. May be one of the worst airports in the country, but still pretty busy.
New Jersey No route to Manhattan for many lines, transfer at Hoboken required. Marginal service to Meadowlands (or whatever they call it these days).
Philadelphia not enough service to northern suburbs, especially going east to west
Also most of the eastern suburbs(South Jersey) as well.
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