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Old 12-29-2013, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by boxus View Post
No, not really. The around one ton variance between passenger car weight is not enough to cause a difference in road damage among them. The biggest contributor to road damage is weather, followed by large trucks (like tractor trailers, dump trucks, garbage trucks, etc).
And mass transit vehicles, which pay nothing towards the roads AND often get to use roads which are off limits to other heavy vehicles.
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Old 12-29-2013, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv View Post
Leave the gas tax as it is, and implement a tire tax. Tires are a pretty reliable way to figure out how much a person is driving. Heavy drivers need tires more often then light drivers. Bigger tires should pay higher taxes.

Just one possible solution.
There used to be a Federal Excise Tax on tires. I understand at one time it was a major portion of a tire's price. Might be a possibility, would hit drivers of electric cars. No doubt more revenue is needed, and raising the gasoline tax is not an equitable way to get it.
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:13 PM
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Motorcycles cause less damage to the road but need tire changes more often. Hopefully this would be taken into account.
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Komeht View Post
Cars are more efficient meaning Highway Trust fund collects less and less every year while having to maintain more and more roads. It's why the Highway Trust Fund is going broke. In 2015 the Highway Trust fund will be 14 Billion dollars short leaving congress to fund the difference.

Could raise gas taxes, but doesn't really put the burden on those who cause the most maintenance.

Better option - ton-mile fee. A car that weights 1 ton and travels 7500 in a year causes a lot less road damage than a two-ton truck traveling 15,000/yr.

Fee assessed at annual sticker inspection. Read the odometer, note how many miles since last inspection and then charge a fee based on mile and weight (e.g. 2 cents / ton mile).

This would over time encourage lighter vehicles and fewer miles and would not exempt people who seek to get around the gas tax with electric vehicles.
trucks already pay much higher taxes in road fees .I do agree tho user fee will have to be adopted to makeup for shortfall because of higher milage of all vehicles.
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ChefMartin4 View Post
I don't know if ton-mile tax is the right solution. But something needs to change in terms of how taxes are collected for roads. Taxes are way too low even on gasoline at this point.
No. Something needs to change in terms of how funds are spent. This business of siphoning highway funds to General Funds and/or using them on unrelated expenditures like bike paths, greenways, or education needs to stop. I'm quite happy to pay fuel tax provided that money goes solely to the maintenance and repair of roadways.
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