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Old 02-09-2014, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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BTDT in Boulder, and believe it or not, I don't care.
You have sat in traffic? Not surprised.
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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I like Seinfeld's explanation: "There is traffic because of your failure to GO - if you would just GO, there would be no traffic."
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:56 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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You have sat in traffic? Not surprised.
And you haven't, I suppose.
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:38 PM
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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BTDT in Boulder, and believe it or not, I don't care.
What does BTDT mean?
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:39 PM
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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Traffic is why God invented car radios/cassette decks/CD players/satellite radio.
what's a cassette?

You forgot to include iPods
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:40 PM
 
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In most places there are no choices except to take a car. So the only other choice is not to drive, which means, no job, which turns into no house, which will eventually translate into homelessness, which is unfeasible in our urbanized society. So technically, we don't have a choice-if we want to keep our freedoms, we have to take a car and thus have to contribute to traffic problems. It can be called a personal choice when everyone, whether in the suburbs or city, has access to multiple modes of transportation-heavy and light rail, buses, cars, biking, and walking.
People can choose to live in areas that aren't auto-dependent. Many people volunteer to live disconnected lives. They can make different choices.
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:43 PM
 
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Biking on the streets of Manhattan are for the mentally insane, I really don't know how you guys do it. I have seen plenty of bikers who clearly have no fear.


so scary. . .
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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And you haven't, I suppose.
Not when on my bike, though I have been in Portland's version of bike traffic because so many people bike there, but that isn't the same as your car traffic.
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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so scary. . .
If you think that is what it is like to bike in Manhattan, you have never been to Manhattan to see what biking in the city is really like.


The Real "New York City" Riders EP1 - YouTube

This gives you a better idea what real Manhattan biking is like.
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Old 02-09-2014, 09:04 PM
 
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People can choose to live in areas that aren't auto-dependent. Many people volunteer to live disconnected lives. They can make different choices.

Well, the Amish volunteer to make that choice, BUT, they have someone else transport them to perform their skilled labor in urban areas.

Density levels and aggregation of people involves (generally) higher costs of everything associated with infrastructure support and in turn transportation. Transportation options of the greatest speed / access/ time value will still be used from cars to trains to bicycles to walking.

if you want to discuss the viability of how public funds are spent on transportation options - I get it. Otherwise we all can be 'stuck' in traffic no matter our mode of transport.

What do you think about flying cars?


Fifth Element Taxi Chase - YouTube

That might eliminate being 'stuck' in traffic - but they'd have to be self flying, because, you know people still want to text, talk, or look up something on their device of choice while driving.
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