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Old 02-20-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Sounds like you can't have that, by some people's definitions. If there aren't people living above stores, or within the confines of a retail area, it's not "mixed". If there aren't offices (of what kind?) it's not mixed.
That is correct, then it is just called single use.

 
Old 02-20-2014, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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That is correct, then it is just called single use.
That's malarkey (as Joe Biden and Paul Ryan would say). A strip mall in the middle of a residential area certainly seems to be fairly mixed use to me.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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That's malarkey (as Joe Biden and Paul Ryan would say). A strip mall in the middle of a residential area certainly seems to be fairly mixed use to me.
Yes, a strip mall in the middle of residential would be considered to be a mixed use development, a strip mall outside of a residential development would not. So it depends on how it is designed. But that strip mall would still be a single use building even if it was in the middle of a mixed use development.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Sounds like you can't have that, by some people's definitions. If there aren't people living above stores, or within the confines of a retail area, it's not "mixed". If there aren't offices (of what kind?) it's not mixed.
The strip mall (locally) I have been complaining about ran into a big problem. People wanted it to be be mixed-use with residential (on that lot) but Safeway nixed the idea of housing claiming the market conditions didn't justify it, but did compromise and make some of the buildings multi floor for offices, with the option of taking more space for residential too.

I hope the residential happens. The strip mall is at the crossroads of 2 very popular neighborhoods and is ideal for a car-free or car-lite development. (It is less than a mile from the "train," many people rely on transit in the neighborhood, and it is well served by transit (and bike lanes too except for the blocks immediately adjacent to the strip mall).
 
Old 02-20-2014, 02:17 PM
 
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There is no strip mall problem, this whole thread is based on a false premise.

Problems in society are child abuse, bad school systems, poverty, crime etc....not "strip malls"
 
Old 02-20-2014, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There is no strip mall problem, this whole thread is based on a false premise.

Problems in society are child abuse, bad school systems, poverty, crime etc....not "strip malls"
Or "one way streets".
 
Old 02-20-2014, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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There is no strip mall problem, this whole thread is based on a false premise.

Problems in society are child abuse, bad school systems, poverty, crime etc....not "strip malls"
This is the urban planning section, not the child care, education, etc section. There is nothing wrong with talking specifically about strip malls.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Mixed-use development - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This lines up with the generally accepted definition. Retail, commercial/industrial and residential all in one place.
Well, then, I lived in a "mixed use" neighborhood when I was a kid. There was a steel mill right down the street, about 1 1/2 blocks away. My mom used to tie my brother and I up to the front porch so we wouldn't get hit by a semi if we ran out into the street.

For those of you who don't know, I'm talking about a heavy manufacturing plant where they made steel.

(You knew that was coming, didn't you, nei?)
 
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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Perhaps we can agree that there are degrees of mixed use, and some might be good and others not so good?

Small shops (or even an a small office building) a block away, sound ok. A steel mill? Umm, no.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 03:13 PM
 
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Perhaps we can agree that there are degrees of mixed use, and some might be good and others not so good?

Small shops (or even an a small office building) a block away, sound ok. A steel mill? Umm, no.
Why not people lived that way for years. Heck cities sorted themselves into industrial and retail areas long before the rise of burbs.
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