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Old 02-19-2014, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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This is how San Francisco sounded just before getting destroyed in 1906

Kind of a cool film. Of course, if you treated pedestrians with that little respect today, you'd be tossed in prison. Probably rightly so. Nonetheless, it was interesting to me to look at reality versus perceptions of reality over 40 years before cities became designed for cars.

After 1906, damage really becomes apparent after about 30 seconds:

Market Street - San Francisco 1906 - After the Earthquake - DashCam View - Silent - YouTube

2009:
Streetfilms | Rush Hour Bike Traffic on SF’s Market Street
(Note background of SF wanting to do away with the bike lane, not some Federal Government conspiracy.)

Today:
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Streetfilms Shortie - San Francisco Bicycle Rush Hour (Market Street) on Vimeo

Last two are bicycle rather than people focused. But maybe bicyclists are people whereas drivers clearly aren't?
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:09 PM
 
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San Francisco, like all older cities, was designed before cars. It had to be designed around pedestrians, or what transit that could be put in place at the time (cable cars for example.)

Cities that were developed after the mass introduction of automobiles, were designed around them as the primary form or transit.
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Old 02-22-2014, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Bicycles are closer to pedestrians than cars due to how they function. Bikes run on manpower rather than an engine, bikes are an outdoor activity while cars are more of an enclosed activity the separates one from pedestrians. Cars can reach speaks that a bike cannot.

One can easily drive in SF, but no one would consider a bike to be the same as a car, even though a bike is a moving vehicle.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:42 PM
 
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This is how San Francisco sounded just before getting destroyed in 1906

Kind of a cool film. Of course, if you treated pedestrians with that little respect today, you'd be tossed in prison. Probably rightly so. Nonetheless, it was interesting to me to look at reality versus perceptions of reality over 40 years before cities became designed for cars.
I don't follow . . . so this is a few weeks after the worst natural disaster to every hit that city - whole blocks are reduced to rubble - yet all of the sidewalks are clear. People cross the street casually, some even walk in the street with no apparent fear of being run down.

I'm not picking up on any anti-ped vibe there.
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