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Old 02-22-2014, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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They're not downtowns, they are malls. There's only one property owner and the stores which come in are planned and selected by that property owner, often with restrictions based on deals with previous tenants.
Exactly, rarely are they property divided up and sold to different developers. It is also why they are typically single use developments.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Exactly, imagine if they called those lifestyle centers downtowns, and the suburbanites would freak out that crime and city problems would come with it.
Don't be obtuse.
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Old 02-22-2014, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Northern Colorado
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Don't be obtuse.
they don't want to call them malls or downtowns. Malls would have meant to some boring and enclosed. some people when they hear outdoor malls think outlet malls. But yes, lifestyle centers are outdoor malls.

And not all lifestyle centers are malls. It needs to have a movie theater or department store as an anchor and over 150,000 sq. ft. to be a mall in my opinion.
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I think a hotel is a poor anchor. Hotels do not really generate foot traffic. And if you have one of those business traveler hotels (with wifi and comfy beds) the target demo doesn't have time to stop and shop on a business trip. And if their trips were anything like mine, you don't really have all that much time to stop and relax.
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