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Old 02-28-2014, 09:08 PM
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See the word before "the 1950s"? It is "until." That means that I'm referring to things before that point, not afterward, and in this case was talking specifically about the port. And I'm not sure how it could be construed to mean I'm only talking about the 1950s and 1960s, which were the beginning of a very different era, in my own city and in many others, in terms of transportation and demographics.

Meatpacking is one of those noxious industries that moved out of city centers starting in the early 20th century--meatpacking houses stink. Fruit and vegetable packing doesn't result in large piles of rotting intestines around the packing house site, so it's a lot less of an effect on the neighborhood around the packing house, where most of the workers generally lived. There were some slaughterhouses in Sacramento, but they tended to be farther away from residential areas. One of the biggest, the Swanston plant, had a streetcar line that ran from downtown to the plant itself on the same tracks used by the electric railroad to serve the plant, and it was also served by steam railroads.

And, of course, "the edge of town" is a relative term. If the town is only two miles wide, then an industry on the edge of town is maybe a half-hour walk from most parts of town.
Omaha is more than two miles wide. Even in 1900, it had a population of > 100,000 people.
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Old 03-01-2014, 10:19 AM
 
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What killed meatpacking as an urban industry was better and cheaper refrigeration.
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Old 03-01-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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This is an example of a candle factory in an urban, residential neighborhood: Cathedral Candle Company

http://goo.gl/maps/QFxq6

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Old 03-04-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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Omaha is more than two miles wide. Even in 1900, it had a population of > 100,000 people.
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I was talking about Sacramento, which was about two miles wide until 1911, and its industrial belt was mostly around what was then the periphery of the city--which remained its industrial belt even after the city expanded, allowing residents to live on both sides of the industrial periphery. In the case of the Omaha union stockyards, looking at the site via Google Earth shows that there are residential blocks all around the site. A glance at the architecture reveals early 20th century housing--Craftsman and Revival-style bungalows and foursquares. Which means that there were thousands of people living relatively close to the stockyards, within walking distance. It probably didn't smell real nice, but if they worked at the stockyards they were probably used to it. If someone lived clear on the other side of Omaha, walking to work at the Stockyards would probably be a pain in the neck--and, most likely, they worked someplace closer to that edge of town.

Nobody is suggesting that industries were somehow smoothly and interspersed into residential neighborhoods--of course some parts of town were more industrial than others. But generally, right next to these industrial areas were residential neighborhoods where the workers at those industries lived, and for the most part through the early 20th century, they could walk to work. Thus, walkable factories.
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