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Old 03-22-2014, 08:31 AM
 
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After reading the OP again, even on the West Coast there is a history of tensions like the Watts Riots, Inglewood was actually a Klan town and had a very low Black population as late as 1960 or so, Seattle had restrictive housing covenants, as did Portland.
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:54 PM
 
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There were certainly some active in Oklahoma in the early 70s. My school played ball games in some of them. Get on the bus, go to the gym, get off the bus, play the game, get back on the bus, get the hell out of town. Make no stops.


Sundown towns are still around. There are also invisible demarcated lines of where sundown towns begin and end that only it's arbitrators know about but the intended targets and victims don't know about it.

It makes me sick to my stomach to see that sundown towns still exist. Some people don't even know about the history of sundown towns. Smh
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:57 PM
 
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Sundown towns are still around. There are also invisible demarcated lines of where sundown towns begin and end that only it's arbitrators know about but the intended targets and victims don't know about it.

It makes me sick to my stomach to see that sundown towns still exist. Some people don't even know about the history of sundown towns. Smh
This has information on the subject: Sundown Towns by James W. Loewen
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:32 PM
 
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Not buying the "Sundown Town" website. Looked up my state -- it lists Llewellyn Park. Llewellyn Park was never a sundown town. It's not even a town, it's a gated housing development. I'm sure back in the day the only black people who were allowed within the gates were servants and laborers, but the day is long past and today Whoopi Goldberg owns a house there (from which she evicted an old white woman for not paying her lease). There wouldn't have been any lynchings within the development; it would have been considered unsavory.
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:07 PM
 
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It looks like the site details various places where exclusion was in some way structural--like the city of Eureka, CA, where a gunfight between two Chinese that accidentally killed a white member of their city council resulted in a countywide expulsion of Chinese (aside from one cook who was hidden on a ranch near McKinleyville) that lasted for years. If Llewellyn Park was the first "gated community" as the site claims, were the gates intended to keep particular people out?
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:11 PM
 
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Not buying the "Sundown Town" website. Looked up my state -- it lists Llewellyn Park. Llewellyn Park was never a sundown town. It's not even a town, it's a gated housing development. I'm sure back in the day the only black people who were allowed within the gates were servants and laborers, but the day is long past and today Whoopi Goldberg owns a house there (from which she evicted an old white woman for not paying her lease). There wouldn't have been any lynchings within the development; it would have been considered unsavory.
Yes, it's 'way off. For instance, it's got a couple of places in Oklahoma that were not only not sundown towns--they were historically black settlements. It's got Lawton as "not a sundown town as of 1990"...when Lawton has been a historic location for black soldiers since the days of the Buffalo Soldiers. Sapulpa OK is racist as hell (they made the news when Obama was first elected because the newspaper refused to report it), and it was in Sapulpa that I sat in my last segregated movie theater on July 20, 1969. But blacks were living there, and had been for decades.
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:53 PM
 
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The sundown town thing is real. There is a local comedian who talks about being the first black family in a former sundown town next to Oakland, San Leandro.

http://www.briancopeland.com/e-press...le_5-30-04.pdf

Here is a story about his stage play on his experiences growing up.

My dad's town is still segregated now, even a few years ago I know about a woman (black) who got flack for moving in the white part in like 2003.
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Old 03-22-2014, 11:27 PM
 
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The sundown town thing is real. There is a local comedian who talks about being the first black family in a former sundown town next to Oakland, San Leandro.

http://www.briancopeland.com/e-press...le_5-30-04.pdf

Here is a story about his stage play on his experiences growing up.

My dad's town is still segregated now, even a few years ago I know about a woman (black) who got flack for moving in the white part in like 2003.
Sundown towns are real (at least they were as of the 1970s) but the information at that particular link is spotty enough to render it unreliable.
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Old 03-22-2014, 11:34 PM
 
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Sundown towns are real (at least they were as of the 1970s) but the information at that particular link is spotty enough to render it unreliable.
Well this guy wrote a whole book on his experience. At this point I don't remember what I read, since it was several years ago, but you can go to his main site for more in the stage play based on his book.
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Old 03-22-2014, 11:57 PM
 
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Well this guy wrote a whole book on his experience. At this point I don't remember what I read, since it was several years ago, but you can go to his main site for more in the stage play based on his book.
I didn't mean your link, I meant the link on post #93.
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